Re: [scim] data format

Anthony Nadalin <tonynad@microsoft.com> Wed, 29 August 2012 14:45 UTC

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From: Anthony Nadalin <tonynad@microsoft.com>
To: Samuel Erdtman <samuel@erdtman.se>, Leif Johansson <leifj@mnt.se>
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Subject: Re: [scim] data format
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Not sure I quite understand the issue, I thought the issue would be more around the wire format and API then the attributes

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From: scim-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:scim-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Samuel Erdtman
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 2:41 AM
To: Leif Johansson
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Subject: Re: [scim] data format

Should we also look att aligning attributes to Windows Azure Active Directory Graph, or is that a completely different discussion?

regards
//Samuel


On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 9:08 AM, Leif Johansson <leifj@mnt.se> wrote:
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> On 08/29/2012 03:17 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
>> On 8/28/12 6:44 PM, Trey Drake wrote:
>>> Peter,
>>
>>> Would this be in addition to or in lieu of the JSON and XML formats?
>>
>> Trey, that is a good question. There's an XML representation for
>> vCard4 (RFC 6351) and I've contributed to a document defining a JSON 
>> representation (draft-bhat-vcarddav-json), so we could potentially 
>> use those (which seems preferable to defining yet another one-off 
>> data model with both JSON and XML representations).
>> Ideally, I think we'd settle on just one mandatory-to-implement 
>> representation of whatever data model we choose.
>
> My recollection is that the wg in Vancouver expressed a pretty clear 
> consensus that it wanted to deprecate the XML representation in favor 
> of JSON. This will obviously need to be confirmed on the list but it 
> probably means that if vCard is to be considered that JSON version is 
> going to be important.
>
>         Cheers Leif
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