Re: [Sedate] Robert Wilton's Block on charter-ietf-sedate-01-00: (with BLOCK)

Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> Mon, 17 April 2023 16:06 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Sedate] Robert Wilton's Block on charter-ietf-sedate-01-00: (with BLOCK)
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On 2023-04-17, at 17:50, Rob Wilton (rwilton) <rwilton@cisco.com> wrote:
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> Is your plan to produce an RFC that updates RFC 3339 or do a RFC3339bis? 

Generally, the IETF experience with bis projects on 21-year old documents would indicate that we would be lucky to get this done in a two-year project.  

I’m not against taking up such a project (if we can muster the energy), but for now (with the need to get to an approved IXDTF document in a limited time before every SDO does their own), a simple update for RFC 3339 out of the IXDTF document is more expeditious.

Grüße, Carsten