Re: [shim6] IPv6 multihoming

Vlad Ion <vlad.thoth@gmail.com> Mon, 25 January 2010 22:36 UTC

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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 00:36:06 +0200
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From: Vlad Ion <vlad.thoth@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [shim6] IPv6 multihoming
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That would not provide multihoming as much as provide direct access to the
whole internet in v6 format to anyone deciding to switch to v6 which would
be a major incentive for a lot of end-users and enterprise clients instead
of dealing with the few existing islands of v6 and running translation to
reach the v4 internet. Also I doubt that its a valid statement to say that
an organization receiving a /48 will still need to announce its smaller v4
blocks once it starts migrating the end customers to the /48 v6 range. I
know several organization currently announcing a bunch of /24s and /22s in
v4 which could easily be replaced by a single /48 in v6.


BR,
Vlad

On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 11:34 PM, Brian E Carpenter <
brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 2010-01-26 04:54, Andy Davidson wrote:
> > On 25/01/2010 08:55, Vlad Ion wrote:
> >> I propose that the 6to4 ip conversion space from ipv4 addresses to
> >> 2002::ipv6 space will be redefined as provider independent address
> >> space. This way whoever wants to implement ipv6 with multi-homing can
> >> simply redefine their existing IPv4 addresses in IPv6 6to4 format and
> >> have multi-homing in ipv6.
> >
> > Sorry, this scares me.
>
> Well yes. Let's try a thought experiment that doesn't break 6to4:
>
> Proclaim that everyone who has a valid global IPv4 prefix owns
> the PI IPv6 prefix 4444:V4ADDR::/48.
>
> Then we have automatically imported all 318333 IPv4 prefixes
> (according to routeviews) into IPv6.
>
> I'm not quite sure how this would provide multihoming.
>
>    Brian
>
>
> > It is not difficult to get IPv6 PI from the RIRs I have experience with.
> >
> > For example, in Europe, obtaining a single /48 IPv6 PI is a quick
> > process.  Obtaining it in this way means that unused v4 is not recycled
> > as spoofable v6, and that organisations with tens of v4 unjoined
> > prefixes need not announced tens of unjoined v6 prefixes when they
> migrate.
> >
> > I commend you for thinking about ways to encourage networks to adopt v6,
> > but I think that education and advocacy is more future-proof than
> > migrating the v4 swap to v6.
> >
> > Andy
> >
> >
>
>