Re: [sidr] posted: draft-huston-sidr-validity-00.txt
"Roque Gagliano (rogaglia)" <rogaglia@cisco.com> Wed, 14 October 2015 12:21 UTC
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From: "Roque Gagliano (rogaglia)" <rogaglia@cisco.com>
To: Geoff Huston <gih@apnic.net>, Arturo Servin <arturo.servin@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [sidr] posted: draft-huston-sidr-validity-00.txt
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Hi Geoff, In many cases we publish an Appendix on update documents detailing the changes from previous version and given the rational that Arturo mentioned. Roque ‹ Roque Gagliano Tail-f Solutions Architect Southern Europe +41 76 449 8867 On 13/10/15 20:06, "sidr on behalf of Geoff Huston" <sidr-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of gih@apnic.net> wrote: >I think that a standards track document that updates a specification >should be precisely and exactly that. Note that the document it updates >contains no rationale for its many design decisions. > >This does not stop an informational document being published that contains >the discussion of the rationale for the change, but I think it better to >keep >the desired change to the specification as succinct and as focussed as >possible > >thanks, > > Geoff > > >> On 14 Oct 2015, at 12:27 AM, Arturo Servin <arturo.servin@gmail.com> >>wrote: >> >> Hi >> >> Something that I liked from >>draft-ietf-sidr-rpki-validation-reconsidered is that it explained very >>well why we need to change the validation process. Although it is not >>mandatory and I do not have a strong position about it, I think it would >>be good to add some context to this document of why the change. >> >> /as >> >> >> On Fri, 9 Oct 2015 at 18:25 Geoff Huston <gih@apnic.net> wrote: >> sorry - forgot to add the url for this draft - here tis: >> >> >> A new version of I-D, draft-huston-sidr-validity-00.txt >> has been successfully submitted by Geoff Huston and posted to the >> IETF repository. >> >> Name: draft-huston-sidr-validity >> Revision: 00 >> Title: Update to RPKI Validation >> Document date: 2015-10-09 >> Group: Individual Submission >> Pages: 6 >> URL: >>https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-huston-sidr-validity-00.txt >> Status: >>https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-huston-sidr-validity/ >> Htmlized: >>https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-huston-sidr-validity-00 >> >> >> Abstract: >> This document updates the RPKI certificate validation procedure as >> specified in Section 7.2 of RFC6487. >> >> >> >> >> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of >>submission >> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >> >> The IETF Secretariat >> >> >> >> > On 9 Oct 2015, at 1:23 PM, Geoff Huston <gih@apnic.net> wrote: >> > >> > Hi, >> > >> > We were about to ask the WG chairs for a WG Last Call on this >>document, but then noticed that this is an informational document and >>its attempting to update a standards track RFC >> > >> > We suspect that the best case is to instead look at a precise >>standards track document that describes the update to the validation >>procedure described RFC6487 and would be a clear candidate for Standards >>Track itself. >> > >> > So draft-huston-sidr-validity-00.txt is that draft. >> > >> > WG Chairs:- We would like to request WG adoption of >>draft-huston-sidr-validity-00.txt, on the understanding that >>draft-ietf-sidr-rpki-validation-reconsidered has done its work and >>should be allowed to expire gracefully in a corner at this point! >> > >> > >> > regards, >> > >> > Geoff & George >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> On 9 Oct 2015, at 1:06 PM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts >>directories. >> >> This draft is a work item of the Secure Inter-Domain Routing Working >>Group of the IETF. >> >> >> >> Title : RPKI Validation Reconsidered >> >> Authors : Geoff Huston >> >> George Michaelson >> >> Carlos M. Martinez >> >> Tim Bruijnzeels >> >> Andrew Lee Newton >> >> Alain Aina >> >> Filename : >>draft-ietf-sidr-rpki-validation-reconsidered-02.txt >> >> Pages : 12 >> >> Date : 2015-10-09 >> >> >> >> Abstract: >> >> This document reviews the certificate validation procedure specified >> >> in RFC6487 and highlights aspects of operational fragility in the >> >> management of certificates in the RPKI. >> >> >> >> >> >> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >> >> >>https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sidr-rpki-validation-reconsid >>ered/ >> >> >> >> There's also a htmlized version available at: >> >> >>https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-sidr-rpki-validation-reconsidered- >>02 >> >> >> >> A diff from the previous version is available at: >> >> >>https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-sidr-rpki-validation-reconsi >>dered-02 >> >> >> >> >> >> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of >>submission >> >> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >> >> >> >> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: >> >> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> sidr mailing list >> >> sidr@ietf.org >> >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sidr >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > sidr mailing list >> > sidr@ietf.org >> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sidr >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > sidr mailing list >> > sidr@ietf.org >> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sidr >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sidr mailing list >> sidr@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sidr > >_______________________________________________ >sidr mailing list >sidr@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sidr
- [sidr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sidr-rpki-validatio… internet-drafts
- Re: [sidr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sidr-rpki-valid… Geoff Huston
- Re: [sidr] posted: draft-huston-sidr-validity-00.… Geoff Huston
- [sidr] posted: draft-huston-sidr-validity-00.txt Geoff Huston
- Re: [sidr] posted: draft-huston-sidr-validity-00.… Arturo Servin
- Re: [sidr] posted: draft-huston-sidr-validity-00.… Geoff Huston
- Re: [sidr] posted: draft-huston-sidr-validity-00.… Roque Gagliano (rogaglia)