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Re: [Sidrops] WG ADOPTION - draft-madi-sidrops-rush - ENDS 10/12/2020 (Oct 12th)

Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net> Wed, 18 November 2020 07:49 UTC

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From: Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net>
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Subject: Re: [Sidrops] WG ADOPTION - draft-madi-sidrops-rush - ENDS 10/12/2020 (Oct 12th)
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On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 03:02:44PM +0800, Di Ma wrote:
> Jared,
> 
> Thanks for your suggestion.
> 
> > 2020年11月18日 14:54，Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net> 写道：
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >> On Nov 18, 2020, at 1:48 AM, Di Ma <madi@rpstir.net> wrote:
> >> 
> >> We don’t make decision for operators but offer them a choice that they can outsource valiation if they have no problem with this fashion.
> > 
> > Is it perhaps better to think about offering validation as a service to people who can’t or are unable to run their own validators?
> > 
> > (Thinking of how people may decide to use an off-network DNS resolver so they don’t need to operate one themselves).
> > 
> > Perhaps this is something larger networks may want to offer to their customers, similar to how they may offer NTP, DNS and other services?
> 
> I think this is a reasonable usecase which can be added into RUSH document.
> 
> And RUSH can also be used within a large ISP to distribute cache to RTR servers deployed in different ASes.

	While an idea, how i copy data internally between my infrastructure
doesn't always need to become a standard.  In that regard I tend to lean
towards the comments from Job.

	I may clone VMs, use rsync, ftp, scp, webdav, SMB to copy data
around internally.  My [dirty] incantations don't need to be all standards
based.

	- Jared

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