Re: [sieve] New Version Notification for draft-george-sieve-vacation-time-00
Aaron Stone <aaron@serendipity.cx> Thu, 04 February 2010 18:32 UTC
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Date: Thu, 04 Feb 2010 10:33:19 -0800
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Subject: Re: [sieve] New Version Notification for draft-george-sieve-vacation-time-00
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On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 7:07 AM, Barry Leiba <barryleiba.mailing.lists@gmail.com> wrote: >> Well, the obvious existing model for this sort of thing is spamtest and >> spamtestplus. In that case specifying spamtestplus implicitly sets spamtest. >> The rationale, as I recall, is that since spamtestplus makes no sense >> without spamtest, why make the require clause even longer than it needs to be? >> >> if there's a reason not to follow that approach here I don't see it. > > OK, I'll buy that. Good. So for the next version: > > 1. I will change ":time" to ":seconds". Personal comments: Since Ned has :hours, and here we're talking about :seconds, why not also add :minutes? > 2. I will change "vacation-time" to "vacation-seconds". Thought experiment: what if :time referred to a time of day? All vacation notices would be batched and sent at that time of day. What might be a use case for this? > 3. I will add text saying that "vacation-seconds" implies "vacation", > and that a script that includes "vacation-time" in the "require" list > MAY omit "vacation" from the list. +1 >>> The other question is if the working group will adopt this. Should >>> the updated version (changing "time" to "seconds") become >>> draft-ietf-sieve-vacation-seconds-00 ? >> >> WFM. > > I'll hold off on updating the draft for a day or two, and if the > chairs tell me that they have approved > "draft-ietf-sieve-vacation-seconds" as a working group draft, I will > submit it that way. Otherwise, I'll submit an -01 version with the > current name. Chair's comment: I'm in general favor of making it a WG document, but I'd like to think out if there are more changes to vacation that anybody has in mind. Should we open an "evacation" can of worms? (Probably not.) Should we consider that a couple of vacation extensions might come together and should be profiled as "vacation2" or something like that? > Other comments from participants (or chairs)? I like it! Aaron
- Re: [sieve] New Version Notification for draft-ge… Barry Leiba
- Re: [sieve] New Version Notification for draft-ge… Дилян Палаузов
- Re: [sieve] New Version Notification for draft-ge… Arnt Gulbrandsen
- Re: [sieve] New Version Notification for draft-ge… Barry Leiba
- Re: [sieve] New Version Notification for draft-ge… NED+mta-filters
- Re: [sieve] New Version Notification for draft-ge… Arnt Gulbrandsen
- Re: [sieve] New Version Notification for draft-ge… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [sieve] New Version Notification for draft-ge… Barry Leiba
- Re: [sieve] New Version Notification for draft-ge… Aaron Stone
- Re: [sieve] New Version Notification for draft-ge… Barry Leiba
- Re: [sieve] New Version Notification for draft-ge… Derek Diget
- Re: [sieve] New Version Notification for draft-ge… Aaron Stone
- Re: [sieve] New Version Notification for draft-ge… NED+mta-filters
- Re: [sieve] New Version Notification for draft-ge… NED+mta-filters
- Re: [sieve] New Version Notification for draft-ge… Arnt Gulbrandsen
- Re: [sieve] New Version Notification for draft-ge… NED+mta-filters
- Re: [sieve] New Version Notification for draft-ge… Дилян Палаузов
- Re: [sieve] New Version Notification for draft-ge… Barry Leiba
- Re: [sieve] New Version Notification for draft-ge… Дилян Палаузов
- Re: [sieve] New Version Notification for draft-ge… Arnt Gulbrandsen
- Re: [sieve] New Version Notification for draft-ge… Aaron Stone
- Re: [sieve] New Version Notification for draft-ge… Arnt Gulbrandsen
- Re: [sieve] New Version Notification for draft-ge… Aaron Stone
- Re: [sieve] New Version Notification for draft-ge… Arnt Gulbrandsen
- Re: [sieve] New Version Notification for draft-ge… Barry Leiba
- Re: [sieve] New Version Notification for draft-ge… Arnt Gulbrandsen
- Re: [sieve] New Version Notification for draft-ge… NED+mta-filters
- Re: [sieve] New Version Notification for draft-ge… NED+mta-filters
- Re: [sieve] New Version Notification for draft-ge… NED+mta-filters
- Re: [sieve] New Version Notification for draft-ge… Aaron Stone
- Re: [sieve] New Version Notification for draft-ge… Aaron Stone
- Re: [sieve] New Version Notification for draft-ge… NED+mta-filters
- Re: [sieve] New Version Notification for draft-ge… NED+mta-filters
- Re: [sieve] New Version Notification for draft-ge… Barry Leiba
- Re: [sieve] New Version Notification for draft-ge… Barry Leiba
- Re: [sieve] New Version Notification for draft-ge… NED+mta-filters
- Re: [sieve] New Version Notification for draft-ge… Aaron Stone
- Re: [sieve] New Version Notification for draft-ge… Barry Leiba
- Re: [sieve] New Version Notification for draft-ge… NED+mta-filters
- Re: [sieve] New Version Notification for draft-ge… NED+mta-filters
- Re: [sieve] New Version Notification for draft-ge… Aaron Stone