Re: [sieve] New Version Notification for draft-george-sieve-vacation-time-00

[Barry Leiba <[e-mail]>]

>> OK, I'll buy that.  Good.  So for the next version:
>>
>> 1. I will change ":time" to ":seconds".
>
> Personal comments:
>
> Since Ned has :hours, and here we're talking about :seconds, why not
> also add :minutes?

I'm happy to add :minutes and :hours to the draft if we think there's
value, but it seems to add unnecessary stuff.  :seconds can cover all
the minutes and hours we'd need.  At some level, ":hours 4" looks
nicer than ":seconds 14400", but they really are the same thing.  And
something like ":hours 1 :minutes 30" seems to work out better as
simply ":seconds 5400".

Ned?

> Thought experiment: what if :time referred to a time of day? All
> vacation notices would be batched and sent at that time of day. What
> might be a use case for this?

Mm.  ":time 00:00:00" to send the (de-duped) batch at midnight.  I
can't really see the need for that.  For the most part, you'd want the
first notice ASAP, and just have duplicates suppressed after that,
until the interval expires.

The only reason I could see for delaying even the first notice until a
designated time would be if you wanted to be able to cancel them if
something has changed.  Like, maybe, "Don't tell people I'm gone
unless I'm not back by 3:00."  Even with that, what happens when you
get back at 3:01?  No, that just seems like a solution no one's asked
for nor needs.

> I'm in general favor of making it a WG document, but I'd like to think
> out if there are more changes to vacation that anybody has in mind.
> Should we open an "evacation" can of worms? (Probably not.) Should we
> consider that a couple of vacation extensions might come together and
> should be profiled as "vacation2" or something like that?

I'd be amenable to expanding the scope of this, but that would be at
the expense of delays caused by other stuff that might b harder.  This
is a simple change, and is needed (as Ned points out) if we want to
make more general auto-replies work through "vacation".  I'd rather
have this on its own, and then have "vacation2", if it happens,
incorporate this as a feature.

Barry

(P.S.  Please review notify-presence, as well, with the same thoughts
in mind (I'm about to post an update to that one.)