Re: [Simple] draft-boulton-xcon-session-chat

Hi Mary,

actually other than a nickname mechanism, xep-045 also define a logging, 
history etc etc
other then supporting private messaging and roster etc. etc.

moreover it is not just a question of example, it is more a matter to 
draft correctly a protocol
agnostic mechanism that works at least for all the current IM/Chat 
protocols.

msrp-chat protocol other that still be a work in progress, it has a too 
limited scope and only
basic features to be take as a good example to describe a Group Chat 
XCON system.

one more comment, I think the title from "Instant Messaging Sessions 
within a Centralized Conferencing (XCON) System"
in to "Group Chat XCON within a Centralized Conferencing (XCON) System"
as Instant Messaging Sessions  are note necessarily chat sessions,  in 
fact generally  are 1:1 sessions
that do not need  any  of the  chat  features at all.

Sal

Mary Barnes wrote:
> Hi Salvatore,
>
> Thanks for the feedback and it's a very good suggestion to look at XMPP
> (and perhaps add an example). 
>
> I will definitely take a look at how the XMPP nickname mechanism.
> Nicknames are the topic of discussion for this agenda item in XCON on
> Thursday:
> http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/08nov/agenda/xcon.html
>
> Thanks, 
> Mary.  
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: salvatore loreto [mailto:salvatore.loreto@ericsson.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 2:00 PM
> To: cboulton@avaya.com; Barnes, Mary (RICH2:AR00)
> Cc: simple@ietf.org; xcon@ietf.org; Peter Saint-Andre
> Subject: draft-boulton-xcon-session-chat
>
> Hi Mary and Chris,
>
> I have just have a quick look at this draft and I have to say that I
> like the idea to have an xcon draft describing mechanisms and
> functionalities for a generic group chat conference in a protocol
> agnostic way.
> However the draft seems to me too tight to SIP / MSRP chat mechanisms
> that as far as I know it is not yet be deployed anywhere, and instead
> does not say anything about other so to say successful chat protocol
> like xmpp that is largely deployed and used within the Internet.
>
> In order to have a more general description of the problem I think you
> should have a look at
> - XEP-0045: Multi-User Chat http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0045.html the
> XMPP protocol extension for multi-user text chat and to
> - http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-saintandre-sip-xmpp-groupchat-00.txt
> that is a first tentative of interworking between xmpp and mrsp-chat.
>
> for example it should be interesting see and discuss in this draft how
> xmpp set a chatroom, a nickname etc. etc.
> and describe how it could be possible do the same things using ccmp.
>
> regards
> Sal
>
>
>
>   

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