Re: [Simple] draft-boulton-xcon-session-chat

"Mary Barnes" <mary.barnes@nortel.com> Tue, 18 November 2008 20:18 UTC

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From: Mary Barnes <mary.barnes@nortel.com>
To: salvatore loreto <salvatore.loreto@ericsson.com>, cboulton@avaya.com
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Hi Salvatore,

Thanks for the feedback and it's a very good suggestion to look at XMPP
(and perhaps add an example). 

I will definitely take a look at how the XMPP nickname mechanism.
Nicknames are the topic of discussion for this agenda item in XCON on
Thursday:
http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/08nov/agenda/xcon.html

Thanks, 
Mary.  

-----Original Message-----
From: salvatore loreto [mailto:salvatore.loreto@ericsson.com] 
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To: cboulton@avaya.com; Barnes, Mary (RICH2:AR00)
Cc: simple@ietf.org; xcon@ietf.org; Peter Saint-Andre
Subject: draft-boulton-xcon-session-chat

Hi Mary and Chris,

I have just have a quick look at this draft and I have to say that I
like the idea to have an xcon draft describing mechanisms and
functionalities for a generic group chat conference in a protocol
agnostic way.
However the draft seems to me too tight to SIP / MSRP chat mechanisms
that as far as I know it is not yet be deployed anywhere, and instead
does not say anything about other so to say successful chat protocol
like xmpp that is largely deployed and used within the Internet.

In order to have a more general description of the problem I think you
should have a look at
- XEP-0045: Multi-User Chat http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0045.html the
XMPP protocol extension for multi-user text chat and to
- http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-saintandre-sip-xmpp-groupchat-00.txt
that is a first tentative of interworking between xmpp and mrsp-chat.

for example it should be interesting see and discuss in this draft how
xmpp set a chatroom, a nickname etc. etc.
and describe how it could be possible do the same things using ccmp.

regards
Sal


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