Re: [Sip] Toward the Evolution of SIP and Related Working Groups

Dean Willis <dean.willis@softarmor.com> Mon, 23 June 2008 21:22 UTC

Return-Path: <sip-bounces@ietf.org>
X-Original-To: sip-archive@optimus.ietf.org
Delivered-To: ietfarch-sip-archive@core3.amsl.com
Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 991863A6A15; Mon, 23 Jun 2008 14:22:39 -0700 (PDT)
X-Original-To: sip@core3.amsl.com
Delivered-To: sip@core3.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24A043A69E5 for <sip@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 23 Jun 2008 14:22:39 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.53
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.53 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.069, BAYES_00=-2.599]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zXmA86vM-ETj for <sip@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 23 Jun 2008 14:22:38 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from nylon.softarmor.com (nylon.softarmor.com [66.135.38.164]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37D2C3A6A15 for <sip@ietf.org>; Mon, 23 Jun 2008 14:22:38 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from [192.168.2.103] (cpe-76-185-142-113.tx.res.rr.com [76.185.142.113]) (authenticated bits=0) by nylon.softarmor.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m5NLMR1m010568 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Mon, 23 Jun 2008 16:22:29 -0500
Message-Id: <5744EABA-0861-4B95-BD91-2C4F0AC92BFE@softarmor.com>
From: Dean Willis <dean.willis@softarmor.com>
To: Hadriel Kaplan <HKaplan@acmepacket.com>
In-Reply-To: <E6C2E8958BA59A4FB960963D475F7AC30BE7D5C137@mail.acmepacket.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v924)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 16:22:22 -0500
References: <E6C2E8958BA59A4FB960963D475F7AC30BE3C778B0@mail.acmepacket.com> <408DFED6-302C-4525-BCD5-1E43B68369BE@softarmor.com> <485FEDBA.9090304@cisco.com> <549C8D7E-8F0D-43C8-B6C3-B61D5D0DE238@softarmor.com> <E6C2E8958BA59A4FB960963D475F7AC30BE7D5C137@mail.acmepacket.com>
X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.924)
Cc: "sip@ietf.org" <sip@ietf.org>, Paul Kyzivat <pkyzivat@cisco.com>
Subject: Re: [Sip] Toward the Evolution of SIP and Related Working Groups
X-BeenThere: sip@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9
Precedence: list
List-Id: Session Initiation Protocol <sip.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip>, <mailto:sip-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/private/sip>
List-Post: <mailto:sip@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:sip-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip>, <mailto:sip-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed"; DelSp="yes"
Sender: sip-bounces@ietf.org
Errors-To: sip-bounces@ietf.org

On Jun 23, 2008, at 3:23 PM, Hadriel Kaplan wrote:

> [fixed subject title, since I apparently broke it]
>
> How about a compromise: 2 WG's of 2-hour meetings each (since  
> today's SIP WG actually takes 2 of 2-hour meeting slots I think).
> One for the general SIP stuff as today, and one for "SIP Security".

  Ah yes, two eternal working groups to replace one.

> The new security group would take such things as:
> draft-ietf-sip-dtls-srtp-framework

-- This one is arguably done, depending on what we believe about RFC  
4474 and gateways/b2buas.

>
> draft-ietf-sip-eku

-- EKU is basically done.

>
> draft-ietf-sip-media-security-requirements

-- This one is done

>
> draft-ietf-sip-ua-privacy

-- This one is done,

>
> draft-ietf-sip-domain-certs

-- This one is done

>
> draft-ietf-sip-e2m-sec

-- This one is done

>
> draft-ietf-sip-saml
-- I'm not sure this one is ever getting done.

So I'm not sure there's enough there to justify a WG.

How about an "Identity in SIP" working group that takes on fixing RFC  
4474 for gateways/b2buas and possibly considers identity/role  
assertion using SAML?

--
Dean

_______________________________________________
Sip mailing list  https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip
This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol
Use sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip
Use sipping@ietf.org for new developments on the application of sip