Re: Static IP addresses for Dial-up
Robert Elz <kre@munnari.oz.au> Mon, 29 January 1996 12:14 UTC
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To: Brian Carpenter CERN-CN <brian@dxcoms.cern.ch>
Cc: peter@unipalm.pipex.com, nanog@merit.edu, cidrd@iepg.org, iab@isi.edu
Subject: Re: Static IP addresses for Dial-up
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 29 Jan 1996 11:15:32 BST." <9601291015.AA08851@dxcoms.cern.ch>
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 21:36:33 +1100
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From: Robert Elz <kre@munnari.oz.au>
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 11:15:32 +0100 (MET) From: "Brian Carpenter CERN-CN" <brian@dxcoms.cern.ch> Message-ID: <9601291015.AA08851@dxcoms.cern.ch> 1. [..] I must state that the IAB has absolutely no role [..] Absolutely. 2. [..] I can tell you that we are in favour of technology that conserves address space and facilitates renumbering. Again, absolutely. I should say here though that that technology doesn't exist yet. My brother happens to be a customer of Demon's. He has one of those statically assigned IP addresses for a dial up customer (he's just a PC at home and typically a few minutes a day). That sounds like a perfect place for a dynamic address, however, if he had that, it would make life harder for me. With his static address I can instal filters to give him more access to my system at home (which is basically permanently connected, and not a PC) than I allow all the rest of you. (For Tony's benefit - no, this is not relying on source address filtering, I actually filter the packets that my system sends out, I will let it send packets to him that I won't let it send elsewhere, which has basically the same effect). While I have no doubt that not all of Demon's customers have requirements or uses anything like this, simply outlawing static addresses for dial up uses seems to me to be going a little too far. At least until we have the mechanisms that would make this need redundant (like dynamic DNS updates, and IP security widely deployed), plus good renumbering. Incidentally, absolutely no-one seems to doubt that if I have two systems at home, on a baby-lan, I can have a /29 or /30 statically assigned to me (at 50% or less address effeciency), but that if I have just one it seems I'm not supposed to have a /32 (100% address effeciency). Weird... kre
- Re: Static IP addresses for Dial-up Brian Carpenter CERN-CN
- Re: Static IP addresses for Dial-up Robert Elz
- Re: Static IP addresses for Dial-up Piet Beertema
- Re: Static IP addresses for Dial-up Christian Huitema
- Re: Static IP addresses for Dial-up Paul Ferguson
- Re: Static IP addresses for Dial-up Jim Dixon
- Re: Static IP addresses for Dial-up Robert Elz
- Re: Static IP addresses for Dial-up Lixia Zhang
- Re: Static IP addresses for Dial-up Piet Beertema
- Re: Static IP addresses for Dial-up Sanjay Dani
- Re: Static IP addresses for Dial-up Matt Crawford
- Re: Static IP addresses for Dial-up Paul Ferguson
- Re: Static IP addresses for Dial-up Paul Ferguson
- Re: Static IP addresses for Dial-up Matthew Kaufman
- Re: Static IP addresses for Dial-up Robert A. Rosenberg
- Re: Static IP addresses for Dial-up Robert Elz
- Re: Static IP addresses for Dial-up marthag