AW: [Sipping] RE: I-D ACTION:draft-jennings-sipping-pay-02.txt

"Tschofenig, Hannes" <hannes.tschofenig@siemens.com> Wed, 20 July 2005 15:50 UTC

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Subject: AW: [Sipping] RE: I-D ACTION:draft-jennings-sipping-pay-02.txt
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 17:50:28 +0200
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From: "Tschofenig, Hannes" <hannes.tschofenig@siemens.com>
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hi henry, 

thanks for pointing to the draft. 
i think a comparison with other spit proposals is not really necessary given the detailed description in 
<draft-ietf-sipping-spam-00.txt> 

could you elaborate a bit more on your statement about voip payments using either flat rate or complex 3rd party business models?

ciao
hannes

> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: sipping-bounces@ietf.org 
> [mailto:sipping-bounces@ietf.org] Im Auftrag von henry@sinnreich.net
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 20. Juli 2005 17:17
> An: 'sipping WG'
> Betreff: [Sipping] RE: I-D ACTION:draft-jennings-sipping-pay-02.txt 
> 
> 
> This is an interesting proposal and deserves some attention.
> 
> The title of the ID could be better chosen, even if longer or by some
> abbreviation, so as to indicate it is an option from SPIT 
> prevention and not
> for VoIP payments which are either flat rate (mostly) or have 
> some complex
> 3rd party business models.
> 
> Also, in the introduction, a short comparison with other SPIT 
> prevention
> mechanism would be helpful, as well as presenting the motivation for
> choosing this particular approach.
> 
> Thanks, Henry
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> 	Title		: Payment for Services in Session Initiation
>                           Protocol (SIP)
> 	Author(s)	: C. Jennings, et al.
> 	Filename	: draft-jennings-sipping-pay-02.txt
> 	Pages		: 22
> 	Date		: 2005-7-19
> 	
> Communication systems require that a person receiving a call be able
>    able to charge the caller when they are from different 
> administrative
>    domains.  This is necessary for making fair exchanges of service
>    between two different communicating parties and is a major strategy
>    for reducing the viability of SPAM.  This draft proposes 
> an approach
>    for doing this in SIP.  The approach relies on a third party to act
>    as a payment service provider and is optimized for very simple, low
>    value transactions.  It does not provide the full range of services
>    that are desirable in typical online trading systems.
> 
>    This draft is being discussed on the sipping@ietf.org mailing list.
>    There is currently work to substantially change this draft to use
>    SAML.
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