Re: [Sipping] [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC5359 (7718)

"Murray S. Kucherawy" <superuser@gmail.com> Fri, 01 December 2023 18:55 UTC

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From: "Murray S. Kucherawy" <superuser@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2023 10:54:23 -0800
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Subject: Re: [Sipping] [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC5359 (7718)
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Done.

-MSK

On Fri, Dec 1, 2023 at 10:14 AM Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com> wrote:

> Author and long-time facilitator of the SIPit interop events here:
>
> This Errata should be rejected.
>
> The existing text explains and it is _intentional_ that the diagram claims
> that no media is sent.
>
> Here's the text from the top of page 7:
>
>    In this scenario, Alice calls Bob, then Bob places the call on hold.
>    Bob then takes the call off hold, then Alice hangs up the call.  Note
>    that hold is unidirectional in nature.  However, a UA that places the
>    other party on hold will generally also stop sending media, resulting
>    in no media exchange between the UAs.  Older UAs may set the
>    connection address to 0.0.0.0 when initiating hold.  However, this
>    behavior has been deprecated in favor or using the a=inactive SDP
>    attribute if no media is sent, or the a=sendonly attribute if media
>    is still sent.
>
>    Also note the use of the rendering feature tag defined in RFC 4235
>    [RFC4235] used in F10 and F11 to indicate that Bob's UA is no longer
>    rendering media to Bob, i.e., that Bob has placed the call on hold.
>
>
> RjS
>
> On 12/1/23 12:03 PM, Rebecca VanRheenen wrote:
>
> Hi Murray and Francesca,
>
> We are unable to verify this erratum that the submitter marked as editorial. Please note that we have changed the “Type” of the following errata report to “Technical”.  As Stream Approver, please review and set the Status and Type accordingly (see the definitions at https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata-definitions/).
>
> You may review the report at: https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid7718
>
> Note: We are sending this to you as ADs of the ART area as the sipping Working Group (was part of the RAI Area) has concluded.
>
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> Thank you.
>
> RFC Editor/rv
>
>
>
> On Dec 1, 2023, at 8:27 AM, RFC Errata System <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org> <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org> wrote:
>
> The following errata report has been submitted for RFC5359,
> "Session Initiation Protocol Service Examples".
>
> --------------------------------------
> You may review the report below and at:https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid7718
>
> --------------------------------------
> Type: Editorial
> Reported by: Fabien R. <rocherfabien@yahoo.fr> <rocherfabien@yahoo.fr>
>
> Section: 2.1 Call Hold
>
> Original Text
> -------------
> In the diagram:
>             |           No RTP Sent!        |
>
> Corrected Text
> --------------
>             |           One way RTP         |
>             |<==============================|
>
> Notes
> -----
> If we follow the explanation next to the diagram, the RTP flow should be 'unidirectionnal' after the hold because F10 is using a=sendonly and F12 a=recvonly.
>
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> --------------------------------------
> RFC5359 (draft-ietf-sipping-service-examples-15)
> --------------------------------------
> Title               : Session Initiation Protocol Service Examples
> Publication Date    : October 2008
> Author(s)           : A. Johnston, Ed., R. Sparks, C. Cunningham, S. Donovan, K. Summers
> Category            : BEST CURRENT PRACTICE
> Source              : Session Initiation Proposal Investigation
> Area                : Real-time Applications and Infrastructure
> Stream              : IETF
> Verifying Party     : IESG
>
>
>