Re: [Slim] How to know modality in draft-ietf-slim-negotiating-human-language

Randall Gellens <rg+ietf@randy.pensive.org> Fri, 13 October 2017 11:41 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Slim] How to know modality in draft-ietf-slim-negotiating-human-language
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At 2:12 PM +0200 7/28/17, Gunnar Hellström wrote:

>  I remember a comment in one of the reviews 
> (maybe from Adam ?) mentioning that it would be 
> good if there was a simple way to decide if a 
> language tag is a sign language or a written or 
> spoken language.
>  We have not responded to that comment.
>
>  I know one application scanning the IANA 
> language registry at startup for that purpose 
> and scanning for the word "sign" in the tag 
> description. But that might be seen as an 
> inappropriate way to use IANA registers if it 
> get used by every phone in the future.
>
>  What can we say about this review comment? Do 
> we need to add a modality indication parameter 
> in the syntax? Or shall we strictly limit audio 
> to have spoken languages, video to have signed 
> languages and text and webrtc data channels to 
> have written languages? Or shall we leave this 
> problem to implementation?

I think it exceeds the scope of the draft.  It 
reads to me as a request for functionality that 
is inherent in all uses of language tags, not 
just the applications of this draft.

>
>  /Gunnar
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