[Snac] Re: What is the timeline for draft-ietf-snac-simple (causing several MISSREF in 6MAN WG) ?
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Circling back around on this - did we ever get some closure on the SNAC dependency tree? I believe there was hope for something in April to resolve the MISREF. Anything we can do to help? nb On Mon, Mar 30, 2026 at 6:08 AM Eric Vyncke (evyncke) <evyncke@cisco.com> wrote: > > Dear all, > > I have requested the IESG to approve the change proposed below by Ted on next IESG telechat, i.e., Thursday 2nd of April. Then, Jonathan can submit a revised I-D. > > Nevertheless, I am requesting the SNAC chairs to schedule a virtual interim meeting in April to finalise the draft-ietf-snac-simple I-D and initiate a WG Last Call shortly after this interim. My understanding is that the I-D is 99% perfect and there are very few RFC that are 100% perfect (e.g., nearly 10,000 RFCs and only 103 STDs). > > Regards > > -éric > > From: Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> > Date: Wednesday, 18 March 2026 at 09:51 > To: Esko Dijk <esko.dijk@iotconsultancy.nl> > Cc: Eric Vyncke (evyncke) <evyncke@cisco.com>, Esko Dijk <esko.dijk@iotconsultancy.nl>, snac@ietf.org <snac@ietf.org>, Jonathan Hui <jonhui@google.com>, Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com>, Jen Linkova <furry13@gmail.com>, draft-ietf-6man-rfc6724-update@ietf.org <draft-ietf-6man-rfc6724-update@ietf.org>, Darren Dukes <ddukesietf@gmail.com>, David (Zhe) Lou <zhe.lou@huawei.com> > Subject: Re: [Snac] What is the timeline for draft-ietf-snac-simple (causing several MISSREF in 6MAN WG) ? > > On Mar 18, 2026, at 09:26, Esko Dijk <esko.dijk@iotconsultancy.nl> wrote: > > "The SNAC router flag with value '1' is to be used only by SNAC routers. A future specification will define the operation of a SNAC router. For example, [I-D.ietf-snac-simple] may be such a specification. > Any router that is not operating as a SNAC router MUST set the SNAC router flag to '0'." > > > I would say it more like this: > > The SNAC router flag with value '1' is reserved for use by SNAC routers. The definition of what a SNAC router and when a SNAC router sets this flag is is out of scope for this document. The SNAC router specification work in progress can be seen here: [I-D.ietf.snac-simple]. > > I.e., no need to be prognosticate. >
- [Snac] What is the timeline for draft-ietf-snac-s… Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
- [Snac] Re: What is the timeline for draft-ietf-sn… Ted Lemon
- [Snac] Re: What is the timeline for draft-ietf-sn… Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
- [Snac] Re: What is the timeline for draft-ietf-sn… Esko Dijk
- [Snac] Re: What is the timeline for draft-ietf-sn… Darren Dukes
- [Snac] Re: What is the timeline for draft-ietf-sn… Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
- [Snac] Re: What is the timeline for draft-ietf-sn… Tim Chown
- [Snac] Re: What is the timeline for draft-ietf-sn… Florian Obser
- [Snac] Re: What is the timeline for draft-ietf-sn… Esko Dijk
- [Snac] Re: What is the timeline for draft-ietf-sn… Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
- [Snac] Re: What is the timeline for draft-ietf-sn… Bob Hinden
- [Snac] Re: What is the timeline for draft-ietf-sn… Esko Dijk
- [Snac] Re: What is the timeline for draft-ietf-sn… Ted Lemon
- [Snac] Re: What is the timeline for draft-ietf-sn… Esko Dijk
- [Snac] Re: What is the timeline for draft-ietf-sn… Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
- [Snac] Re: What is the timeline for draft-ietf-sn… Zhe Lou
- [Snac] Re: What is the timeline for draft-ietf-sn… Bob Hinden
- [Snac] Re: What is the timeline for draft-ietf-sn… Nick Buraglio
- [Snac] Re: What is the timeline for draft-ietf-sn… Nick Buraglio
- [Snac] Re: What is the timeline for draft-ietf-sn… Bob Hinden
- [Snac] Re: What is the timeline for draft-ietf-sn… Nick Buraglio