Re: [Softwires] draft-penno-softwire-sdnat vs. draft-cui-softwire-b4-translated-ds-lite

<mohamed.boucadair@orange.com> Thu, 15 March 2012 13:55 UTC

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From: mohamed.boucadair@orange.com
To: "Lee, Yiu" <Yiu_Lee@Cable.Comcast.com>, Alain Durand <adurand@juniper.net>
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 14:55:38 +0100
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Subject: Re: [Softwires] draft-penno-softwire-sdnat vs. draft-cui-softwire-b4-translated-ds-lite
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> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Lee, Yiu [mailto:Yiu_Lee@Cable.Comcast.com] 
> Envoyé : jeudi 15 mars 2012 14:19
> À : Alain Durand; BOUCADAIR Mohamed OLNC/NAD/TIP
> Cc : Softwires WG; draft-cui-softwire-b4-translated-ds-lite; 
> draft-penno-softwire-sdnat@tools.ietf.org
> Objet : Re: [Softwires] draft-penno-softwire-sdnat vs. 
> draft-cui-softwire-b4-translated-ds-lite

> >
> >IMHO, not specifying the technology to get pot range and
> >living this to implementation is a serious shortcoming.
> >We need to standardize one method.
> 
> We can easily define a method in the B4 translated DS-lite 
> draft. We have
> few on the table (i.e. dhcpv4 over v6 transport, dhcpv6, 
> radius, pcp). We
> can ask the WG to decide which one should be in the base 
> spec. This is how
> RFC5959 was written. Alternatively, we can do what RFC6333 
> does. RFC6333
> doesn't have any provision method defined except referring to RFC6334.

Med: I fully agree.