Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-lamps-im-keyusage-00.txt

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From: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>
To: Rohan Mahy <rohan.mahy@gmail.com>
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Thread-Topic: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-lamps-im-keyusage-00.txt
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Subject: Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-lamps-im-keyusage-00.txt
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The target usage of an IM identity is not TLS, it is end-to-end encryption applications where a user or client (say Alice) wants to verify the identity of another user or client (say Bob), and often have no transport encryption link to.

Oops.  Yes, of course.  Sorry for the noise.

And still would like a reply to my more first question: Have any IM providers/vendors/open-source groups said they are interested in deploying this?