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Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: CAA processing for email addresses

Phillip Hallam-Baker <phill@hallambaker.com> Thu, 01 December 2022 21:42 UTC

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From: Phillip Hallam-Baker <phill@hallambaker.com>
Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2022 16:42:42 -0500
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To: Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>
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Subject: Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: CAA processing for email addresses
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But this is not a proposal that would be relevant to Mail Service Operators
like Gmail or Hotmail.

It is only relevant to enterprises running mail services under their own
DNS name. Outsourcing that to a mail service provider would not impact the
use of CAA or S/MIMe in the slightest.


On Thu, Dec 1, 2022 at 3:02 PM Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>
wrote:

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>
> On 01/12/2022 18:46, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote:
> > I support adoption of this draft.
>
> In the absence of mail service operators who say they want
> this, I'm against adoption. (If this does originate in CAB
> forum, I'm not aware folks like that are represented there.)
>
> If some mail service operators wanted this, I'd consider what
> they said.
>
> S.
>

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