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Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for draft-dkg-lamps-samples

Daniel Kahn Gillmor <dkg@fifthhorseman.net> Wed, 05 May 2021 19:30 UTC

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From: Daniel Kahn Gillmor <dkg@fifthhorseman.net>
To: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>, Henning Krause <mail@henningkrause.eu>, Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com>, LAMPS WG <spasm@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for draft-dkg-lamps-samples
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On Tue 2021-05-04 16:32:32 +0000, Salz, Rich wrote:
> I think it's reasonable to leave sample messages to another
> document/author.  I think putting the rationale for not including it
> into the intro/abstract would help avoid having to re-answer the
> question ad nauseum.

The "prior work" section, when talking about how it differs from RFC
4134, already says:

    This document intends to focus specifically on identity and key
    material, as a starting point for other documents that can develop
    examples or test cases from them.


I'm moving that sentence to the end of the Introduction, where i've
rewritten it as:

    This document focuses narrowly on functional, well-formed identity
    and key material.  It is a starting point that other documents can
    use to develop sample signed or encrypted messages, test vectors, or
    other artifacts for improved interoperability.

This change will be in -01.  Feel free to suggest additional
improvements!

Regards,

        --dkg

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