Re: [spring] Thoughts and concerns

Bertrand,

It’s naive (and perhaps self-serving on Cisco’s part) to call this thread irrelevant and to try to shut it down.  I applaud Andrew for bringing this to the WG’s and the IETF’s attention.  I feel (personal opinion) this is something that SPRINGers should know and evaluate for themselves.  

But you do have a point: perhaps someone should let the Powers That Be at the IETF know, not just the SPRING WG.  I await a Routing AD, the IETF Chair, marketing or Legal Counsel to say whether this is relevant and how (if at all) the IETF should respond.

Kireeti

> On Nov 29, 2019, at 02:07, Bertrand Duvivier (bduvivie) <bduvivie@cisco.com> wrote:
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> SRING WG chairs and members,
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> If this is not an IETF Business (like suggested by Andrew Alton), I do suggest this irrelevant threat to be abandon/drop from the IETF SPING mailing list. 
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> BRGDS Bertrand
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> [spring] Thoughts and concerns
> Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com> Thu, 28 November 2019 15:26 UTCShow header
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> Hi Guys,
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> I have some questions - I ran across a document which has me deeply concerned - that purports to be written by the authors of SRH and makes direct reference to this working group.  And since the claims in it are deeply worrying - I think its time to ask for some answers. I fully realize that well - what people publish outside of the IETF is probably no business of the IETF - but, a document that claims to be published by the authors of a draft - that makes false claims about the working groups very charter - that - concerns me.
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> The document itself can be found at: https://www.segment-routing.net/images/20191029-02-Update-on-SRv6-standardization-activities.pdf
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> Now - here is my issue
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> Firstly - the second bullet point in that document runs *DIRECTLY* contrary to what is stated in the spring charter - to quote the charter:
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> The Source Packet Routing in NetworkinG (SPRING) Working Group is the home of Segment Routing (SR) using MPLS (SR-MPLS) and IPv6 (SRv6).
> SPRING WG serves as a forum to discuss SPRING networks operations, define new applications of, and specify extensions of Segment Routing
> technologies.
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> The forth bullet point is really interesting - because I have yet to see a last-call for this document on the mailing list - unless I missed it - which is explicitly required as per RFC2418 Section 3.2
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> I am not going to bother with the rest of the document - because well - people are free to their own technical opinions - but it greatly bothers me when the authors of a draft are publishing what are in effect blatant untruths in order to promote their work - and I believe it should bother everyone in this working group when such appears.
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> Thanks
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> Andrew
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