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From: "Bertrand Duvivier (bduvivie)" <bduvivie@cisco.com>
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SRING WG chairs and members,

If this is not an IETF Business (like suggested by Andrew Alton), I do suggest this irrelevant threat to be abandon/drop from the IETF SPING mailing list.

BRGDS Bertrand


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From: spring <spring-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2019 8:56:48 PM
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Subject: [spring] Thoughts and concerns

Hi Guys,

I have some questions - I ran across a document which has me deeply concerned - that purports to be written by the authors of SRH and makes direct reference to this working group.  And since the claims in it are deeply worrying - I think its time to ask for some answers. I fully realize that well - what people publish outside of the IETF is probably no business of the IETF - but, a document that claims to be published by the authors of a draft - that makes false claims about the working groups very charter - that - concerns me.

The document itself can be found at: https://www.segment-routing.net/images/20191029-02-Update-on-SRv6-standardization-activities.pdf

Now - here is my issue

Firstly - the second bullet point in that document runs *DIRECTLY* contrary to what is stated in the spring charter - to quote the charter:

The Source Packet Routing in NetworkinG (SPRING) Working Group is the home of Segment Routing (SR) using MPLS (SR-MPLS) and IPv6 (SRv6).
SPRING WG serves as a forum to discuss SPRING networks operations, define new applications of, and specify extensions of Segment Routing
technologies.

The forth bullet point is really interesting - because I have yet to see a last-call for this document on the mailing list - unless I missed it - which is explicitly required as per RFC2418 Section 3.2

I am not going to bother with the rest of the document - because well - people are free to their own technical opinions - but it greatly bothers me when the authors of a draft are publishing what are in effect blatant untruths in order to promote their work - and I believe it should bother everyone in this working group when such appears.

Thanks

Andrew

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