Re: [spring] Introduction of draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming (was Re: draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming: Relative advantages of SRv6)

Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net> Thu, 23 January 2020 15:11 UTC

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From: Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net>
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2020 16:11:09 +0100
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Subject: Re: [spring] Introduction of draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming (was Re: draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming: Relative advantages of SRv6)
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Ron,

The question you asked is like request to provide advantages of traveling
by plane vs by car.

To me SRv6 is completely different solution then SR-MPLS in all aspects of
it. I listed few examples but you had different opinion. And I really have
no time now to argue with you about advantages of choosing IP vs MPLS
transport in any network.

Best,
R.

On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 3:59 PM Ron Bonica <rbonica@juniper.net> wrote:

> Robert,
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> Is the question really that difficult to answer?
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> If not, the effort required to answer it would be much less than the
> effort required to avoid answering it!
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>                                                    Ron
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> *From:* spring <spring-bounces@ietf.org> *On Behalf Of *Robert Raszuk
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 23, 2020 8:53 AM
> *To:* Ron Bonica <rbonica=40juniper.net@dmarc.ietf.org>
> *Cc:* bruno.decraene@orange.com; EXT - Byron.Hoskins@sprint.com <
> Byron.Hoskins@sprint.com>; spring@ietf.org; Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril) <
> pcamaril@cisco.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [spring] Introduction of
> draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming (was Re:
> draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming: Relative advantages of SRv6)
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> Hi Ron,
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> I am really not sure where are you going with this bumerang request.
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> Do you think that customers or users of the technology are so incapable
> that IETF must provide them list of advantages of one protocol choice vs
> alternatives ?
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> Is this really an IETF job to provide advantages of say ISIS over OSPF ?
> IPSec/DTLS VPNs over MPLS-VPNs ? SRv6 over SR-MPLS ?
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> IETF works on standards defining interoperable protocol extensions if
> there is support and interest from the industry. Apparently both SRv6 and
> SR-MPLS demonstrated such support and interest.
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> It would be pretty bad and quite unhealthy now to take IETF to become a
> technology judge. Especially in the subject of your request where choice of
> SR transport goes fundamentally way outside of this WG.
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> Kind regards,
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> R.
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> On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 2:23 PM Ron Bonica <rbonica=
> 40juniper.net@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
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> Pablo,
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> So where should the advantages of SRv6 over SR-MPLS be documented?
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> Maybe someone in the WG will offer to start a new document?
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>                                   Ron
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> Juniper Business Use Only
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