[spring] Chair Review of draft-ietf-spring-srv6-srh-compression-11
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Dear authors: In parallel with the WGLC I have reviewed this document. Thank you for the work you've put into it so far. I have several comments (in-line below) that I would like to see addressed. In general, I think my comments should be relatively easy to address. I want to highlight one point up-front: Operational Considerations/Guidance Dhruv brought up [1] the point of providing "guidance on when to use which flavor and with which C-SID lengths". I fully agree! The document contains (mostly in §4) recommendations, for example, about LBL and C-SID lengths, even if any other value is possible. IOW, the possibilities are endless! Please provide more operational considerations on how an operator can evaluate their needs and select the appropriate flavor/value for their deployment. I included some in-line comments below. Thanks! Alvaro. [1] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/spring/p3GGcuoqOjHaLjrJJaQpKzURTn0 [Line numbers from idnits] ... 142 1. Introduction ... 160 The flavors defined in this document leverage the SRv6 data plane 161 defined in [RFC8754] and [RFC8986], and are compatible with the SRv6 162 control plane extensions for IS-IS [RFC9352], OSPF [RFC9513], and BGP 163 [RFC9252]. [minor] rfc9252 is about SRv6-based BGP services -- is it the best (general) BGP reference to use at this point? 165 2. Terminology ... 188 * C-SID sequence: A group of one or more consecutive segment list 189 entries carrying the common Locator-Block and at least one C-SID 190 container. [minor] It seems to me that this definition is a little off -- looking at it from the point of view of a "C-SID sequence" having to be a sequence of C-SIDs, not a of segment list entries. > Suggestion: * C-SID sequence: A group of one or more consecutive C-SIDs sharing a common Locator-Block and at least one C-SID container. 192 * Uncompressed SID sequence: A group of one or more uncompressed 193 SIDs in a segment list. [minor] The definition of a "C-SID sequence" pointed at the fact that a sequence is "consecutive". Is that the case here too? ... 229 3. Basic Concepts ... 246 A segment list can be encoded in the packet header using any 247 combination of compressed and uncompressed sequences. The C-SID 248 sequences leverage the flavors defined in this document, while the 249 uncompressed sequences use behaviors and flavors defined in other 250 documents, such as [RFC8986]. An SR source node constructs and 251 compresses the SID-list depending on the capabilities of each SR 252 segment endpoint node that the packet should traverse, as well as its 253 own compression capabilities. [minor] "An SR source node constructs and compresses the SID-list depending on the capabilities of each SR segment endpoint node that the packet should traverse..." Which "capabilities of each SR segment endpoint node" are you referring to? How does the SR source node learn about them? Later in the text you talk about advertising the C-SIDs and the SRv6 SID Structure, but those are not "node capabilities". ... 261 4. SR Segment Endpoint Flavors ... 291 The SIDs of both flavors can co-exist in the same SR domain, on the 292 same SR segment endpoint node, and even in the same segment list. 293 However, it is RECOMMENDED, for ease of operation, that a single 294 compressed encoding flavor be used in a given routing domain. In a 295 multi-domain deployment, different flavors MAY be used in different 296 routing domains of the SR domain. [major] s/MAY/may The fact that two flavors exist allows for different ones being used in different routing domains. IOW, the use of "MAY" doesn't add any normative value. ... 311 4.1. NEXT-C-SID Flavor 313 A C-SID sequence using the NEXT-C-SID flavor comprises one or more 314 C-SID containers. Each C-SID container is a fully formed 128-bit 315 SID. It carries a Locator-Block followed by a series of C-SIDs. The 316 Locator-Node and Function of the C-SID container are those of the 317 first C-SID, and its Argument is the contiguous series of subsequent 318 C-SIDs. The second C-SID is encoded in the most significant bits of 319 the C-SID container Argument, the third C-SID is encoded in the bits 320 of the Argument that immediately follow the second C-SID, and so on. 321 When all C-SIDs have the same length, a C-SID container can carry up 322 to K C-SIDs, where K is computed as floor((128-LBL)/LNFL). Each 323 C-SID container for NEXT-C-SID is independent, such that contiguous 324 C-SID containers in a C-SID sequence can be considered as separate 325 C-SID sequences. [major] It should be specified that any remaining bits MUST be 0-padded. [major] Please add a reference or explanation of the floor function. I know it may be clear to many, but no assumptions should be made about future readers. 327 The last C-SID in the C-SID sequence is not required to have the 328 NEXT-C-SID flavor. It can be bound to any behavior and flavor(s), 329 including the REPLACE-C-SID flavor, as long as it meets the 330 conditions defined in Section 6. [minor] Which conditions exactly? Pointing to a specific part of §6 may help. 332 The structure of a SID with the NEXT-C-SID flavor is shown in 333 Figure 1. The same structure is also that of a C-SID container 334 carrying NEXT-C-SID SIDs. [nit] It would be nice to point at Figure 1 earlier in this section. [] I don't understand what the second sentence is trying to say. 336 +------------------------------------------------------------------+ 337 | Locator-Block |Loc-Node| Argument | 338 | |Function| | 339 +------------------------------------------------------------------+ 340 <-------- LBL ---------> < LNFL > <------------- AL -------------> 342 Figure 1: Structure of a NEXT-C-SID flavor SID (scaled for a 343 48-bit Locator- Block, 16-bit combined Locator-Node and Function, 344 and 64-bit Argument) 346 An implementation SHOULD support a 32-bit Locator-Block length (LBL) 347 and a 16-bit C-SID length (LNFL) for NEXT-C-SID flavor SIDs, and MAY 348 support any other Locator-Block and C-SID length. A deployment 349 SHOULD use a consistent Locator-Block length and C-SID length for all 350 SIDs of the SR domain. [major] "SHOULD support a 32-bit Locator-Block length (LBL) and a 16-bit C-SID length (LNFL) for NEXT-C-SID flavor SIDs, and MAY support any other Locator-Block and C-SID length" What are you trying to specify here? By only recommending the LBL/LNFL lengths, there is no requirement that implementations will support that. IOW, if you're trying to define a mandatory-to-implement minimum, then s/SHOULD/MUST The "MAY" has no normative value: s/MAY/may [major] "SHOULD use a consistent Locator-Block length and C-SID length for all SIDs of the SR domain" When is it ok to not be consistent? IOW, why is this recommended and not required? What are the effects of not being consistent? ... 355 When processing an IPv6 packet that matches a FIB entry locally 356 instantiated as a SID with the NEXT-C-SID flavor, the SR segment 357 endpoint node applies the procedure specified in the one following 358 subsection that corresponds to the SID behavior. If the SID also has 359 the PSP, USP, or USD flavor, the procedure is modified as described 360 in Section 4.1.7. [nit] s/in the one following subsection/in the following subsection 362 An SR segment endpoint node instantiating a SID with the NEXT-C-SID 363 flavor MUST accept any Argument value for that SID. [major] Does this also mean that any future behavior cannot make use of an Argument? IOW, behaviors like End.DT2M cannot be used with the NEXT-C-SID flavor. If so, please be explicit about it. ... 377 4.1.1. End with NEXT-C-SID ... 384 The below pseudocode is inserted between lines S01 and S02 of the SRH 385 processing in Section 4.1 of [RFC8986]. In addition, this pseudocode 386 is executed before processing any extension header that is not an 387 SRH, a Hop-by-Hop header or a Destination Option header, or before 388 processing the upper-layer header, whichever comes first. [major] "In addition..." This sentence is not needed because S01 says "When an SRH is processed", so we're already processing the SRH. Also, this sentence is paraphrasing the ordering in §4/rfc8200 -- which makes it unnecessary as the behavior is already specified elsewhere. Furthermore, Appendix A.1 shows the pseudocode being executed "before processing the upper-layer header". However, that upper-layer header would only be processed *after* the SRH is processed (rfc8200) -- so doing it again is unnecessary. Please remove both the sentence above and the extra step in A.1 *before* the upper-layer header. ** Note that other descriptions in this section also contain the same text and should be modified in the same way (including the appendices). 390 N01. If (DA.Argument != 0) { 391 N02. If (IPv6 Hop Limit <= 1) { 392 N03. Send an ICMP Time Exceeded message to the Source Address, 393 Code 0 (Hop limit exceeded in transit), 394 interrupt packet processing and discard the packet. 395 N04. } [major] Why are the other checks not done? For example, why are SL not checked? I understand that if the previous node didn't change it then it should be ok -- but it may not! ... 400 N07. Decrement Hop Limit by 1. [nit] s/Decrement Hop Limit by 1/Decrement IPv6 Hop Limit by 1 ... 547 4.2. REPLACE-C-SID Flavor ... 597 The RECOMMENDED Locator-Block lengths (LBL) for REPLACE-C-SID flavor 598 SIDs are 48, 56, 64, 72, or 80 bits, depending on the needs of the 599 operator. 601 The REPLACE-C-SID flavor supports both 16- and 32-bit C-SID lengths 602 (LNFL). A C-SID length of 32-bit is RECOMMENDED. 604 Any other Locator-Block and C-SID length selection is possible, but 605 may lead to suboptimal C-SID encoding in the C-SID containers (e.g., 606 presence of padding bits). [major] The first two of the three paragraphs above suggest the use of specific values, but it is not until the third paragraph that the reasons become clear -- and it is clarified that any length selection is possible. This makes the initial paragraphs a little misleading because it gives the impression that only specific lengths are supported. > Suggestion: The REPLACE-C-SID flavor supports any Locator-Block and C-SID length selection. LBL values of 48, 56, 64, 72, or 80 bits, and C-SID lengths of 16- or 32-bits are RECOMMENDED to avoid suboptimal C-SID encoding in the C-SID containers (e.g., presence of padding bits). Open questions: How does an operator select the best LBL according to its needs? I imagine that the LBL selection is global (or at least per routing domain or SR domain??) -- how are the nodes made aware of the LBL used/selected? How do the nodes in the network know which C-SID length is in use? Is there a consistency recommendation when using the REPLACE-C-SID flavor? 608 The Argument length (AL) for REPLACE-C-SID flavor SIDs is equal to 609 128-LBL-LNFL. The index value is encoded in the least significant X 610 bits of the Argument, where X is computed as ceil(log_2(128/LNFL)). [major] Please add a reference or explanation of the ceil function. I know it may be clear to many, but no assumptions should be made about future readers. [major] Part of the guidance above about how to chose the LBL and C-SID length should include leaving enough bits in AL to encode the index. There are many cases, but a simple one is using an LBL of 96 and a 32-bit C-SID length, which leaves no room for the index. ... 642 4.2.1. End with REPLACE-C-SID ... 652 S02. If (Segments Left == 0 and (DA.Arg.Index == 0 or 653 Segment List[0][DA.Arg.Index-1] == 0)) { [?] I don't understand why "DA.Arg.Index-1" (the "-1" part) is used. If DA.Arg.Index points at the bits containing the index, what does DA.Arg.Index-1 point to? ... 657 R01. If (DA.Arg.Index != 0) { 658 R02. If ((Last Entry > max_LE) or (Segments Left > Last Entry)) { [?] Should "Segments Left > Last Entry" be "Segments Left > Last Entry+1"? ... 823 4.2.7. End.DX and End.DT with REPLACE-C-SID ... 831 These SIDs differ from those defined in [RFC8986] by the presence of 832 an Argument as part of the SID structure. The Argument value is 833 effectively ignored by the SR segment endpoint node. [minor] s/value is effectively ignored/value is ignored ... 840 The SR segment endpoint node obtains the value Arg.FE2 from the 16 841 most significant bits of DA.Argument if DA.Arg.Index is zero, or from 842 the 16 least significant bits of the next position in the current 843 C-SID container (Segment List[Segments Left][DA.Arg.Index-1]) 844 otherwise (DA.Arg.Index is non-zero). [?] Where does the 16-bit value come from? rfc8986 doesn't specify the size of Arg.FE2, and the related applications don't seem to match in length. What am I missing? ... 869 5. C-SID Allocation ... 874 In order to efficiently manage the C-SID numbering space, a 875 deployment MAY divide it into two non-overlapping sub-spaces: a 876 Global Identifiers Block (GIB) and a Local Identifiers Block (LIB). [major] There's no normative value in "MAY": s/MAY/may ... 920 5.3. GIB/LIB Usage ... 926 The GIB number space is shared among all SR segment endpoint nodes 927 using SRv6 locators under a Block space. The more SIDs assigned from 928 this space, per node, the faster it is exhausted. Therefore its use 929 is prioritized for global segments, such as SIDs that identify a 930 node. [nit] s/a Block space/a Locator-Block space ... 942 Given the previous Locator-Block and C-SID length recommendations, 943 the following GIB/LIB usage is RECOMMENDED: [] s/RECOMMENDED/recommended ... 963 5.4. Recommended Installation of C-SIDs in FIB 965 An SR segment endpoint node instantiating a NEXT-C-SID or REPLACE- 966 C-SID flavor SID SHOULD install the corresponding FIB entry to match 967 only the Locator and Function parts of the SID (i.e., with a prefix 968 length of LBL + LNL + FL). Any other mean of identifying a locally 969 instantiated SID is possible as long as it is compliant with 970 Section 4.3 of [RFC8754] and accepts all valid Argument values for 971 the SID. [major] §4.3/rfc8754 doesn't use normative language. It uses a general statement that allows for different implementations: Without constraining the details of an implementation, the SR segment endpoint node creates Forwarding Information Base (FIB) entries for its local SIDs. It seems to me that rfc8754 already covers what wants to be conveyed in this document: the FIB entry has to uniquely identify the segment endpoint. As written, the text raises several questions: When is it ok to not "install the corresponding FIB entry to match only the Locator and Function parts of the SID"? IOW, why is this action recommended and not required? Note that the entry has to at least cover "a prefix length of LBL + LNL + FL". The other means refer to §4.3/rfc8754, which (as shown above) says that anything (including "install the corresponding FIB entry to match only the Locator and Function parts of the SID") is ok. This takes us back to my original point: rfc8754 already covers what this section wants to convey and it is not needed. "all valid Argument values" -- most of the SIDs used don't use an Argument, so which are the "valid Argument values"? s/all valid Argument values/any Argument value 973 In addition, an SR segment endpoint node instantiating NEXT-C-SID 974 flavor SIDs from both GIB and LIB MAY install combined "Global + 975 Local" FIB entries to match a sequence of global and local C-SIDs in 976 a single LPM lookup. [major] The GIB/LIB constructs are not visible to the FIB, and there's no requirement that one or the other, or both, be installed in it. IOW, the "MAY" lacks any normative value. s/MAY/may [minor] Please expand LPM. ... 1080 6.2. Segment List Compression ... 1086 It is out of the scope of this document to describe the mechanism 1087 through which an uncompressed segment list is derived. As a general 1088 guidance for implementation or future specification, such a mechanism 1089 should aim to select the combination of SIDs that would result in the 1090 shortest compressed segment list. For example, by selecting a C-SID 1091 flavor SID over an equivalent non-C-SID flavor SID or by consistently 1092 selecting SIDs of the same C-SID flavor within each routing domain. [minor] This paragraph is a little confusing. It starts by saying that "It is out of the scope of this document to describe the mechanism through which an uncompressed segment list is derived." While that is true, isn't an uncompressed segment list "normal operation"? IOW, it is out of scope but also already defined elsewhere, right? §8 says that "the controller provides the ordered segment list comprising the uncompressed SIDs" and that "a node that does not support this specification...handles it as described in the corresponding control plane specification..." I interpret this as meaning that there's no change. Am I missing something? The text then goes on to talk about "the shortest compressed segment list"... 1094 The segment list that the SR source node pushes onto the packet MUST 1095 comply with the rules in Section 6.3 and Section 6.4 and result in a 1096 path equivalent to the original segment list. [major] "MUST...result in a path equivalent to the original segment list" How is a "path equivalent to the original" defined? The next paragraph mentions "a compressed segment list of equal or shorter length than the uncompressed segment list". What does the length refer to -- the number of Segment Lists in the SRH, the size of the SRH, or something else? 1098 If an SR source node chooses to compress the segment list, one method 1099 is described below for illustrative purposes. Any other method 1100 producing a compressed segment list of equal or shorter length than 1101 the uncompressed segment list is compliant. ... 1107 * When the compression method encounters a series of one or more 1108 consecutive compressible NEXT-C-SID flavor SIDs, it compresses the 1109 series as follows. A SID with the NEXT-C-SID flavor is 1110 compressible if its structure is known to the SR source node and 1111 its Argument value is 0. [major] Unlike the REPLACE-C-SID flavor (below), there's no check equivalent to ConCheck for the NEXT-C-SID flavor SIDs. Why isn't that needed? ... 1183 | Note: When the last C-SID is an End.DT2M SID with the REPLACE- 1184 | C-SID flavor, if there is 0 or at least two C-SID positions 1185 | left in the current C-SID container, the C-SID is encoded as 1186 | described above and the value of the Arg.FE2 argument is placed 1187 | in the 16 least significant bits of the next C-SID position. 1188 | Otherwise (if there is only one C-SID position left in the 1189 | current C-SID container), the current C-SID container is pushed 1190 | onto the segment list (the value of the C-SID position 0 1191 | remains zero) and the End.DT2M SID with the REPLACE-C-SID 1192 | flavor is encoded in full SID format with the value of the 1193 | Arg.FE2 argument in the 16 most significant bits of the SID 1194 | Argument. [minor] "if there is 0 or at least two C-SID positions left" 0? 1196 * In all remaining cases (i.e., when the compression method 1197 encounters a SID in the uncompressed segment list that is not 1198 handled by any of the previous subroutines), it pushes this SID as 1199 is onto the compressed segment list. [major] "In all remaining cases...pushes this SID as is onto the compressed segment list." One of these cases is a SID that is not a C-SID, or one without the structure information, etc. Why would these be put "onto the compressed segment list"? 1201 Regardless of how a compressed segment list is produced, the SR 1202 source node writes it in the IPv6 packet as described in Section 4.1 1203 of [RFC8754]. The text is reproduced below for reference. 1205 | A source node steers a packet into an SR Policy. If the SR Policy 1206 | results in a Segment List containing a single segment, and there 1207 | is no need to add information to the SRH flag or add TLV; the DA 1208 | is set to the single Segment List entry, and the SRH MAY be 1209 | omitted. 1210 | 1211 | When needed, the SRH is created as follows: 1212 | 1213 | The Next Header and Hdr Ext Len fields are set as specified in 1214 | [RFC8200]. 1215 | 1216 | The Routing Type field is set to 4. 1217 | 1218 | The DA of the packet is set with the value of the first segment. 1219 | 1220 | The first element of the SRH Segment List is the ultimate segment. 1221 | The second element is the penultimate segment, and so on. 1222 | 1223 | The Segments Left field is set to n-1, where n is the number of 1224 | elements in the SR Policy. 1225 | 1226 | The Last Entry field is set to n-1, where n is the number of 1227 | elements in the SR Policy. 1228 | 1229 | TLVs (including HMAC) may be set according to their specification. 1230 | 1231 | The packet is forwarded toward the packet's Destination Address 1232 | (the first segment). 1233 | 1234 | When a source does not require the entire SID list to be preserved 1235 | in the SRH, a reduced SRH may be used. 1236 | 1237 | A reduced SRH does not contain the first segment of the related SR 1238 | Policy (the first segment is the one already in the DA of the IPv6 1239 | header), and the Last Entry field is set to n-2, where n is the 1240 | number of elements in the SR Policy. [nit] The last two paragraphs belong to §4.1.1/rfc8754, and not "Section 4.1 of [RFC8754]" as mentioned above. 1242 6.3. Rules for segment lists containing NEXT-C-SID flavor SIDs 1244 1. If a Destination Option header would follow an SRH with a segment 1245 list of more than one segment compressed as a single NEXT-C-SID 1246 container, the SR source node MUST NOT omit the SRH. 1248 2. When the last Segment List entry (index 0) in the SRH is a C-SID 1249 container representing more than one segment, the PSP operation 1250 is performed at the segment preceding the first segment of this 1251 C-SID container in the segment list. If the PSP behavior should 1252 instead be performed at the penultimate segment along the path, 1253 the SR source node MUST NOT compress the ultimate segment of the 1254 segment list into a C-SID container. 1256 3. If a Destination Option header would follow an SRH with a last 1257 Segment List entry being a NEXT-C-SID container representing more 1258 than one segment, the SR source node MUST ensure that the PSP 1259 operation is not performed before the penultimate SR segment 1260 endpoint node along the path. 1262 6.4. Rules for segment lists containing REPLACE-C-SID flavor SIDs 1264 1. All SIDs compressed in a REPLACE-C-SID sequence MUST share the 1265 same Locator-Block and the same compression scheme. 1267 2. All SIDs except the last one in a C-SID sequence for REPLACE- 1268 C-SID MUST have the REPLACE-C-SID flavor. If the last C-SID 1269 container is fully filled (i.e., the last C-SID is at position 0 1270 in the C-SID container) and the last SID in the C-SID sequence is 1271 not the last segment in the segment list, the last SID in the 1272 C-SID sequence MUST NOT have the REPLACE-C-SID flavor. 1274 3. When a REPLACE-C-SID flavor C-SID is present as the last SID in a 1275 container that is not the last Segment List entry (index 0) in 1276 the SRH, the next element in the segment list MUST be a REPLACE- 1277 C-SID container in packed format carrying at least one C-SID. [major] Are these requirements validated at any point? For example, if rule #3 is not implemented and the next Segment List is not "a REPLACE-C-SID container in packed format". Which node enforces the fact that the specification is not followed? It seems to me that the only node in that position would be the one represented by the that last SID. Can any action be taken? What is the impact? ... 1282 When receiving a SID advertisement for a REPLACE-C-SID flavor SID 1283 with LNL=16, FL=0, AL=128-LBL-NL-FL, and the value of the Argument is 1284 all 0, the SR source node marks both the SID and its locator as using 1285 16-bit compression. All other SIDs allocated from this locator with 1286 LNL=16, FL=16, AL=128-LBL-NL-FL, and the value of the Argument is all 1287 0 are also marked as using 16-bit compression. When receiving a SID 1288 advertisement for a REPLACE-C-SID flavor SID with LNFL=32, AL=128- 1289 LBL-NL-FL, and the value of the Argument is all 0, the SR source node 1290 marks both the SID and its locator as using 32-bit compression. [] "All other SIDs allocated from this locator with LNL=16, FL=16, AL=128-LBL-NL-FL..." Shouldn't this be "LNL=16, FL=0, AL=128-LBL-NL-FL"? 1292 6.5. Upper-Layer Checksums ... 1297 At the originating node, that address will be the Destination Address 1298 as it is expected to be received by the ultimate destination. When 1299 the last element in the compressed segment list is a C-SID container, 1300 this address can be obtained from the last element in the 1301 uncompressed segment list or by repeatedly applying the segment 1302 behavior as described in Section 9.2. This applies regardless of 1303 whether an SRH in present in the IPv6 packet or omitted. [nit] s/SRH in present/SRH is present ... 1330 7.1. End.PS: Prefix Swap ... 1340 Each instance of an End.PS SID is associated with a target Locator- 1341 Block B2/m. The target Locator-Block is a local property of the 1342 End.PS SID on the SR segment endpoint node. [minor] Please explain what "Locator-Block B2/m" means. ... 1353 The means by which an SR source node learns the target Locator-Block 1354 associated with an End.PS SID are outside the scope of this document. 1355 As examples, it could be learnt via configuration or using a 1356 signaling protocol. [?] Is there any work in progress to get this going? ... 1384 7.2. End.XPS: L3 Cross-Connect and Prefix Swap ... 1400 The means by which an SR source node learns the target Locator-Block 1401 associated with an End.XPS SID are outside the scope of this 1402 document. As examples, it could be learnt via configuration or using 1403 a signaling protocol. [?] Is there any work in progress to get this going? ... 1433 8. Control Plane ... 1447 * BGP [RFC9252], [RFC9514], 1448 [I-D.ietf-idr-segment-routing-te-policy], 1449 [I-D.ietf-idr-bgp-ls-sr-policy] [nit] It might be useful to separate BGP from BGP-LS. ... 1458 Signaling the SRv6 SID Structure is REQUIRED for all the SIDs 1459 introduced in this document. It is used by an SR source node to 1460 compress a segment list as described in Section 6. The node 1461 initiating the SID advertisement MUST set the length values in the 1462 SRv6 SID Structure to match the format of the SID on the SR segment 1463 endpoint node. For example, for a SID of this document instantiated 1464 from a /48 SRv6 SID block and a /64 Locator, and having a 16-bit 1465 Function, the SRv6 SID Structure advertisement carries the following 1466 values. [major] "Signaling the SRv6 SID Structure is REQUIRED..." The SRv6 SID Structure TLVs are optional in rfc9352, rfc9513, rfc9514, I-D.ietf-pce-segment-routing-ipv6, and I-D.ietf-idr-segment-routing-te-policy. Even if this document requires the information to be advertised, the control protocols don't. What should the SR Source Node do if the SRv6 SID Structure is not present? Given that the SRv6 SID Structure TLVs are optional, a rogue node can decide to not advertise the information -- the result would probably be that SIDs would not be available to construct all the paths that may be required, which may result in suboptimal routing, or even the inability to construct paths to specific destinations. Please include something about this threat in the Security Considerations. [major] "...the SRv6 SID Structure is REQUIRED for all the SIDs introduced in this document." This document defines, for example, the End.T behavior for both C-SID flavors. However, rfc9352, rfc9513, and rfc9514 don't define the advertisement of End.T. To illustrate, rfc9352 says this: 9. SRv6 SID Structure Sub-Sub-TLV The SRv6 SID Structure sub-sub-TLV is an optional sub-sub-TLV of: * SRv6 End SID sub-TLV (Section 7.2) * SRv6 End.X SID sub-TLV (Section 8.1) * SRv6 LAN End.X SID sub-TLV (Section 8.2) ... No mention of End.T, or other behaviors mentioned in this document. Also, from §7.2: Supported behavior values, together with parent TLVs in which they are advertised, are specified in Section 10 of this document. Please note that not all behaviors defined in [RFC8986] are defined in this document, e.g., End.T is not. The above means that the requirement to advertise the SRv6 SID Structure "for all the SIDs introduced in this document" can't be met because the control plane protocols don't currently have the ability to signal all the behaviors or because the SRv6 SID Structure is not a valid option for them. While I don't think this issue is a showstopper for this document, I'm curious about the plan to extend/update the existing specifications. Note that the implementations in §10 give the impression that no exceptions exist -- of course, it is possible that other mechanisms (manual configuration, for example) are used. I am also curious about any manageability-related plans to enhance YANG models. ... 1476 A local C-SID MAY be advertised in the control plane individually 1477 and/or in combination with a global C-SID instantiated on the same SR 1478 segment endpoint node, with the End behavior, and the same Locator- 1479 Block and flavor as the local C-SID. A combined global and local 1480 C-SID is advertised as follows. [major] The use of local/global spaces is not visible to the control plane, so the "MAY" doesn't have normative value. s/MAY/may ... 1976 13.1. SRv6 Endpoint Behaviors 1978 This I-D. requests the IANA to update the reference of the following 1979 registrations from the "SRv6 Endpoint Behaviors" registry under the 1980 top-level "Segment Routing" registry-group 1981 (https://www.iana.org/assignments/segment-routing/) with the RFC 1982 number of this document once it is published, and transfer change 1983 control to the IETF. [major] you also need to ask for the assignment of the TBA values. ... 2113 +-------+-----------------------------------------+-----------+ 2114 | TBA | End.PS with NEXT-CSID | This I-D. | 2115 +-------+-----------------------------------------+-----------+ 2116 | TBA | End.PS with REPLACE-CSID | This I-D. | 2117 +-------+-----------------------------------------+-----------+ 2118 | TBA | End.XPS with NEXT-CSID | This I-D. | 2119 +-------+-----------------------------------------+-----------+ 2120 | TBA | End.XPS with REPLACE-CSID | This I-D. | 2121 +-------+-----------------------------------------+-----------+ ... 2136 15.1. Normative References ... 2173 [RFC9259] Ali, Z., Filsfils, C., Matsushima, S., Voyer, D., and M. 2174 Chen, "Operations, Administration, and Maintenance (OAM) 2175 in Segment Routing over IPv6 (SRv6)", RFC 9259, 2176 DOI 10.17487/RFC9259, June 2022, 2177 <https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc9259>. [minor] This reference can be Informative. 2179 [RFC9350] Psenak, P., Ed., Hegde, S., Filsfils, C., Talaulikar, K., 2180 and A. Gulko, "IGP Flexible Algorithm", RFC 9350, 2181 DOI 10.17487/RFC9350, February 2023, 2182 <https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc9350>. [minor] This reference can be Informative. [EoR -11]
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