IETF Logo Mail Archive

Re: [Stackevo] [IAB] draft-hardie-path-signals and draft-trammell-wire-image

Mirja Kühlewind <mirja.kuehlewind@tik.ee.ethz.ch> Tue, 10 April 2018 13:28 UTC

Return-Path: <mirja.kuehlewind@tik.ee.ethz.ch>
X-Original-To: stackevo@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: stackevo@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9D27127599; Tue, 10 Apr 2018 06:28:46 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -1.9
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vewgkT0Q0voY; Tue, 10 Apr 2018 06:28:44 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from virgo01.ee.ethz.ch (virgo01.ee.ethz.ch [129.132.2.226]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6C822126DC2; Tue, 10 Apr 2018 06:28:44 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by virgo01.ee.ethz.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40L7Kl054jzMqFD; Tue, 10 Apr 2018 15:28:43 +0200 (CEST)
X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at virgo01.ee.ethz.ch
Received: from virgo01.ee.ethz.ch ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (virgo01.ee.ethz.ch [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pRPoYF7LCavS; Tue, 10 Apr 2018 15:28:41 +0200 (CEST)
X-MtScore: NO score=0
Received: from [10.0.2.36] (104-244-254-36.static-ip.telepacific.net [104.244.254.36]) by virgo01.ee.ethz.ch (Postfix) with ESMTPSA; Tue, 10 Apr 2018 15:28:39 +0200 (CEST)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.3 \(3445.6.18\))
From: Mirja Kühlewind <mirja.kuehlewind@tik.ee.ethz.ch>
In-Reply-To: <CAKKJt-cDPM1+hWwWcTDbxbf89Y6c-ft836s0qde8vWvM1Gdi=w@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 06:28:38 -0700
Cc: "Brian Trammell (IETF)" <ietf@trammell.ch>, Stack Evolution Program <stackevo@iab.org>, Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net>, IAB IAB <iab@iab.org>
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Message-Id: <B20D3F49-C0E8-4664-BDED-E11D46F069F6@tik.ee.ethz.ch>
References: <C986EAB5-CFE3-49AF-A19A-B087E63EE365@trammell.ch> <1641F7D4-E7E9-4A8D-88F2-3A07A0082AFD@mnot.net> <0CB88447-0F7C-4A8E-BE70-7CDF29C9FCE9@trammell.ch> <3C1B09FF-0CFC-4AB0-ACB6-B929E68F4BF6@mnot.net> <EB6FACE9-364E-48FC-B02B-65E88EAA29E2@trammell.ch> <CAKKJt-cDPM1+hWwWcTDbxbf89Y6c-ft836s0qde8vWvM1Gdi=w@mail.gmail.com>
To: Spencer Dawkins at IETF <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com>
X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.6.18)
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/stackevo/RKwDsdf0zA_qJTEyFB21lHdenDg>
Subject: Re: [Stackevo] [IAB] draft-hardie-path-signals and draft-trammell-wire-image
X-BeenThere: stackevo@iab.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22
Precedence: list
List-Id: IP Stack Evolution Program Mailing List <stackevo.iab.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.iab.org/mailman/options/stackevo>, <mailto:stackevo-request@iab.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/stackevo/>
List-Post: <mailto:stackevo@iab.org>
List-Help: <mailto:stackevo-request@iab.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.iab.org/mailman/listinfo/stackevo>, <mailto:stackevo-request@iab.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 13:28:47 -0000


> Am 10.04.2018 um 05:49 schrieb Spencer Dawkins at IETF <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com>:
> 
> > """
> > Parts of a protocol's wire image that are purposefully not invariant because they are not intended to be visible or manipulated by defines on paths should, where possible, be protected by encryption, "greasing" [ref?] or other techniques to assure that they do not become invariant over time, through ossification.
> > """
> 
> I'd thought this followed, but yeah it bears making explicit.

I don’t know because that’s basically the message of the path-signals draft. Maybe add a pointer instead?

Mirja

v2.23.0 | Report a Bug | By Email