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Re: [Suit] NIST selected PQM algorithms

Brendan Moran <Brendan.Moran@arm.com> Sun, 10 July 2022 20:37 UTC

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From: Brendan Moran <Brendan.Moran@arm.com>
To: Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com>
CC: Koen Zandberg <koen.zandberg@inria.fr>, "suit@ietf.org" <suit@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Suit] NIST selected PQM algorithms
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Hi Russ,

Are you opposed to Falcon for SUIT? If so, is it just the maturity of the algorithm? It seems to have an excellent set of tradeoffs. Bearing in mind that we are only looking at the verify operation, there shouldn’t be any concern about constant time implementations or side channels.

Best regards,
Brendan

> On 8 Jul 2022, at 16:51, Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com> wrote:
>
> I think SUIT needs to look at SPHINCS+ as an alternative to HSS/LMS for the hash-based signature algorithm, but the NIST standard for SPHINCS+ will probably not be available for a year.
>
> Russ
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>
>> On Jul 8, 2022, at 7:25 AM, Koen Zandberg <koen.zandberg@inria.fr> wrote:
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>> Hi all,
>>
>> NIST announced the first four quantum resistant cryptographic algorithms a few days back. Matching the earlier discussions on this list, NIST also selected FALCON for the case where smaller signatures are required.
>>> From what I understand of the process there is still a document that
>> should be released soon(tm) with the exact parameters that should be used for the algorithms. In any case I think this is good news for us as one of the selected algorithms matches what was preferred from the SUIT side.
>>
>> To be complete, the other algorithms selected are Dilithium and SPHINCS+, where Dilithium has large signatures (2.5 KB) and SPHINCS+ has even larger signatures (17 KB).
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Koen Zandberg
>>
>> [1]: https://www.nist.gov/news-events/news/2022/07/nist-announces-first-four-quantum-resistant-cryptographic-algorithms
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