Re: [sunset4] Stateless NAT44 vs MAP/4rd
GangChen <phdgang@gmail.com> Fri, 20 July 2012 08:00 UTC
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Cc: Simon Perreault <simon.perreault@viagenie.ca>, Dan Wing <dwing@cisco.com>, "sunset4@ietf.org" <sunset4@ietf.org>, "George, Wes" <wesley.george@twcable.com>
Subject: Re: [sunset4] Stateless NAT44 vs MAP/4rd
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2012/7/20, Will Liu (Shucheng) <liushucheng@huawei.com>: > Thanks for your interests in our draft. > > I am not quite sure whether you were asking the mapping between prefixs or > IPs. Let me explain both. In our method, mapping between internal prefix and > external prefix is 1:1, while mapping between internal IP and external IP is > N:1. As shown in Figure 2 and 3, the length of external prefix is longer > than the internal prefix. More specifically, the difference between them is > the length of port set id. Did this answer the question, or do you have > other questions regarding the mapping? Thanks. To be more precise, I guess N=2^(b-a) if I understood correctly In another words, when network assigns external prefix, the multiplexing ratio was been pre-determined by length of internal prefix, i.e. deterministic NAT behaviour BRs Gang > Regards, > Will > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: sunset4-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:sunset4-bounces@ietf.org] On >> Behalf Of GangChen >> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 2:02 PM >> To: Simon Perreault >> Cc: George, Wes; sunset4@ietf.org; Dan Wing; Will Liu (Shucheng) >> Subject: Re: [sunset4] Stateless NAT44 vs MAP/4rd >> >> The draft is quite interesting >> One question for clarification >> >> Is the mapping between Internal Prefix & External Prefix 1:1 or N:1 ? >> >> BRs >> >> Gang >> >> 2012/7/17, Simon Perreault <simon.perreault@viagenie.ca>: >> > On 07/11/2012 12:44 PM, Dan Wing wrote: >> >>> draft-tsou-stateless-nat44-00 >> >> >> >> This seems to be a MAP solution. But differs from MAP in that it uses >> >> an IPv4 network between the subscriber and the ISP's "stateless NAT44" >> >> device, whereas MAP uses an IPv6 network between the subscriber and >> >> the ISP's "MAP border relay" device. >> > >> > I think this is a fair comparison. >> > >> > One advantage of SLNAT44 over MAP is that the necessary changes to the >> > CPE are minimal. For example, a vanilla Linux can do SLNAT44 today. >> > >> > Another advantage of SLNAT44 is simpler provisioning: CPEs don't need >> > to >> > have access to all the "mapping rules" for direct communication to >> > work. >> > In MAP/4rd, a CPE needs to compute the IPv6 address to which the IPv4 >> > address it wants to reach is mapped. That's why rules need to be >> > downloaded to the CPE. In SLNAT44, you just send the packet directly to >> > the IPv4 address you want to reach. There is no overlay network, so no >> > rules to be downloaded. >> > >> > Simplicity! :) >> > >> > Simon >> > -- >> > DTN made easy, lean, and smart --> http://postellation.viagenie.ca >> > NAT64/DNS64 open-source --> http://ecdysis.viagenie.ca >> > STUN/TURN server --> http://numb.viagenie.ca >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > sunset4 mailing list >> > sunset4@ietf.org >> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sunset4 >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> sunset4 mailing list >> sunset4@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sunset4 >
- [sunset4] FW: draft-li-behave-NAT444-Test and dra… George, Wes
- Re: [sunset4] FW: draft-li-behave-NAT444-Test and… Dan Wing
- Re: [sunset4] FW: draft-li-behave-NAT444-Test and… Will Liu (Shucheng)
- [sunset4] Stateless NAT44 vs MAP/4rd Simon Perreault
- Re: [sunset4] Stateless NAT44 vs MAP/4rd GangChen
- Re: [sunset4] Stateless NAT44 vs MAP/4rd Will Liu (Shucheng)
- Re: [sunset4] Stateless NAT44 vs MAP/4rd GangChen
- Re: [sunset4] Stateless NAT44 vs MAP/4rd Simon Perreault