Re: [T2TRG] [Ace] Proposed document: draft-amsuess-t2trg-raytime-01

Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Wed, 12 July 2023 22:57 UTC

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Subject: Re: [T2TRG] [Ace] Proposed document: draft-amsuess-t2trg-raytime-01
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Christian Amsüss <christian@amsuess.com> wrote:
    > Hello T2TRG (because of its researchy character), hello ACE (because
    > this is applied to your ecosystem),

I don't think this belongs in t2trg, but I don't object.
maybe it goes into ACE or IOTOPS.

    > motivated by project requirements, I've written a draft[1] on how
    > devices without reliable Internet connectivity (and thus time source)
    > can deal with time limited tokens.

I like your document.

We wrote something similiar for RFC8366 or 8995, but I think we ripped most
of it out.  For instance, if a device had a valid IDevID with a notBefore of
2021-02-01, and the RTC said 1980-01-01 [good old DOS epoch], then one could
be sure it was at least 2021-02-01!

You are just advancing the raytime based upon verified information from the
AS.  I definitely like that.
{There is a Doctor Who and/or Blakes Seven and/or Stargate plot here though.}

    > The concept and trade-offs will not be surprising to many, but to my
    > knowledge they have not been written up. In addition, this document
    > lists the mechanisms a device can use to reject outdated tokens on a
    > best effort base.

    > I'd appreciate the group's input on the document, in particular in the
    > area of previous work there.

I opened an issue in your gitlab.

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