Re: [tcpm] alternate IW proposal
Joe Touch <touch@isi.edu> Thu, 18 November 2010 19:07 UTC
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Subject: Re: [tcpm] alternate IW proposal
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On 11/18/2010 10:00 AM, Mark Allman wrote: > > Mark: >> - TCP will react to problems in the initial window. It will. It will >> figure itself out of it within a connection. > > Joe: >> TCP does NOT react to problems in the IW. It keeps using the same IW >> for every connection, banging its head against the wall continually. > > Joe, please read what I wrote. Please in particular note the last three > words. You are not replying to what I said. My statement is right. "Within a connection" is true. That's not the case I consider important, and not the case I have been arguing. Please re-read what I posted. > Your reaction that "TCP does NOT react to problems in the IW" is wrong. > (Yes, sometimes it happens.) TCP uses the same IW over and over. If it's wrong - if every connection loses 5 of the first 10 packets sent - TCP *does not learn to do anything different for the next **new** connection*. We agree on this, I think. My point, all along, is that it is *this* issue that is of concern. Joe
- Re: [tcpm] alternate IW proposal Mark Allman
- [tcpm] alternate IW proposal Mark Allman
- Re: [tcpm] alternate IW proposal Anantha Ramaiah (ananth)
- Re: [tcpm] alternate IW proposal Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] alternate IW proposal Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] alternate IW proposal Michael Welzl
- Re: [tcpm] alternate IW proposal Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] alternate IW proposal Mark Allman
- Re: [tcpm] alternate IW proposal Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] alternate IW proposal Mark Allman
- Re: [tcpm] alternate IW proposal Mark Allman
- Re: [tcpm] alternate IW proposal Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] alternate IW proposal Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] alternate IW proposal Mark Allman
- Re: [tcpm] alternate IW proposal Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] alternate IW proposal Nandita Dukkipati
- Re: [tcpm] alternate IW proposal Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] alternate IW proposal Nandita Dukkipati
- Re: [tcpm] alternate IW proposal Andrew Yourtchenko
- Re: [tcpm] alternate IW proposal Mark Allman
- Re: [tcpm] alternate IW proposal Yuchung Cheng
- Re: [tcpm] alternate IW proposal Ilpo Järvinen
- Re: [tcpm] alternate IW proposal Jerry Chu
- Re: [tcpm] alternate IW proposal Jakob Heitz
- Re: [tcpm] alternate IW proposal Jerry Chu
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- Re: [tcpm] alternate IW proposal Joe Touch
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