Re: [tcpm] alternate IW proposal

Joe Touch <touch@isi.edu> Thu, 18 November 2010 19:07 UTC

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On 11/18/2010 10:00 AM, Mark Allman wrote:
>
> Mark:
>>     - TCP will react to problems in the initial window.  It will.  It will
>>       figure itself out of it within a connection.
>
> Joe:
>> TCP does NOT react to problems in the IW. It keeps using the same IW
>> for every connection, banging its head against the wall continually.
>
> Joe, please read what I wrote.  Please in particular note the last three
> words.  You are not replying to what I said.  My statement is right.

"Within a connection" is true.

That's not the case I consider important, and not the case I have been 
arguing. Please re-read what I posted.

> Your reaction that "TCP does NOT react to problems in the IW" is wrong.
> (Yes, sometimes it happens.)

TCP uses the same IW over and over. If it's wrong - if every connection 
loses 5 of the first 10 packets sent - TCP *does not learn to do 
anything different for the next **new** connection*.

We agree on this, I think. My point, all along, is that it is *this* 
issue that is of concern.

Joe