Re: [tcpm] alternate IW proposal
Nandita Dukkipati <nanditad@google.com> Fri, 19 November 2010 00:54 UTC
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Subject: Re: [tcpm] alternate IW proposal
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... > > Really? You can tell the difference between 1 second and 0.8 >>> seconds? or 1.2 seconds? >>> >> >> Yep. That's what they tell me. I haven't run the tests, but yeah >> that's the right order for human perception to start. >> > > People can notice things down to about 200ms. That does NOT mean they know > 1 vs 1.2 seconds, though - and definitely not 400 vs 500ms. We looked at > this issue in the mid 90s when looking at web push systems. Fortunately, we don't have to speculate on the impact of delay on user behaviors. There are more recent (2009, 2010) studies that show that even small latency increases, such as 100ms, have measurable impacts (obviously negative) on user experience and perception. These studies describe experiments and go on to quantify the impact of delays ranging from 50-2000ms on user behavior, number of clicks, and such other metrics. * http://velocityconf.com/velocity2009/public/schedule/detail/8523 * http://googleresearch.blogspot.com/2009/06/speed-matters.html Other work along similar lines: http://velocityconf.com/velocity2010/public/schedule/detail/13031 http://velocityconf.com/velocity2009/public/schedule/detail/7709 http://www.gomez.com/pdfs/wp_why_web_performance_matters.pdf I think we can safely put to rest the question on whether IW10 benefits are significant enough to warrant it to be standardized. -Nandita > > > Joe > _______________________________________________ > tcpm mailing list > tcpm@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tcpm >
- Re: [tcpm] alternate IW proposal Mark Allman
- [tcpm] alternate IW proposal Mark Allman
- Re: [tcpm] alternate IW proposal Anantha Ramaiah (ananth)
- Re: [tcpm] alternate IW proposal Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] alternate IW proposal Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] alternate IW proposal Michael Welzl
- Re: [tcpm] alternate IW proposal Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] alternate IW proposal Mark Allman
- Re: [tcpm] alternate IW proposal Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] alternate IW proposal Mark Allman
- Re: [tcpm] alternate IW proposal Mark Allman
- Re: [tcpm] alternate IW proposal Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] alternate IW proposal Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] alternate IW proposal Mark Allman
- Re: [tcpm] alternate IW proposal Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] alternate IW proposal Nandita Dukkipati
- Re: [tcpm] alternate IW proposal Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] alternate IW proposal Nandita Dukkipati
- Re: [tcpm] alternate IW proposal Andrew Yourtchenko
- Re: [tcpm] alternate IW proposal Mark Allman
- Re: [tcpm] alternate IW proposal Yuchung Cheng
- Re: [tcpm] alternate IW proposal Ilpo Järvinen
- Re: [tcpm] alternate IW proposal Jerry Chu
- Re: [tcpm] alternate IW proposal Jakob Heitz
- Re: [tcpm] alternate IW proposal Jerry Chu
- Re: [tcpm] alternate IW proposal Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] alternate IW proposal Yuchung Cheng
- Re: [tcpm] alternate IW proposal Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] alternate IW proposal Mark Allman
- Re: [tcpm] alternate IW proposal Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] alternate IW proposal Scheffenegger, Richard
- Re: [tcpm] alternate IW proposal Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] alternate IW proposal Jakob Heitz
- Re: [tcpm] alternate IW proposal Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] alternate IW proposal Mark Allman
- Re: [tcpm] alternate IW proposal Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] alternate IW proposal Mark Allman
- Re: [tcpm] alternate IW proposal Jerry Chu
- Re: [tcpm] alternate IW proposal Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] alternate IW proposal Jerry Chu