Re: [tcpm] draft-minshall-nagle

"Eggert, Lars" <lars@netapp.com> Tue, 03 June 2014 06:05 UTC

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From: "Eggert, Lars" <lars@netapp.com>
To: Wesley Eddy <wes@mti-systems.com>
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Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2014 06:05:19 +0000
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Subject: Re: [tcpm] draft-minshall-nagle
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CC'ing Greg at one address that used to work for him.

On 2014-6-3, at 3:58, Wesley Eddy <wes@mti-systems.com> wrote:

> I was working on an issue with Nagle in a space system, and
> noticed that the Linux kernel actually implements the "Minshall"
> version of the Nagle algorithm, described nicely in:
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-minshall-nagle-01
> 
> There are a couple later papers I was able to find also that
> describe this.
> 
> To me, this looks like clearly a good thing that should be
> recommended in the RFCs where we currently just have discussion
> of "standard Nagle".  Apparently it was adopted in Linux, but I
> wonder if it was picked up or not in other OSes as well.
> 
> Does anyone have history on why this draft never progressed?
> Maybe someone has current contact information for Greg Minshall?
> 
> -- 
> Wes Eddy
> MTI Systems
> 
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