Re: [Teas] WG adoption poll: draft-dong-teas-nrp-scalability-02

mohamed.boucadair@orange.com Tue, 21 June 2022 11:17 UTC

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Hi Jie, 

Thanks for the replies in the doc file. Much appreciated. I trust that changes will be made to the document to reflect the comments/replies.

I'm still not convinced that having a discussion about VPN+ is justified, but that's a minor point at this stage. 

For this pending point: 

> > > Good question. The WG may need to discuss what types of slice
> > > related identifiers are needed.
> >
> > [Med] However that discussion need to take place before digging
> into
> > optimization matters (this draft, for example).
> 
> My understanding is the WG have had the discussion about what
> information is needed in the underlay network. According to that
> discussion, a network needs to be aware of the underlay constructs
> (i.e. NRPs) to apply different forwarding treatment to packets
> which are mapped to different NRPs.

The point is that there are various ways to achieve that mapping.  

Assuming that an extra identifier is needed, the questions I have are still unanswered:
* Should that identifier be a slice id? a slice aggregate id? etc. 
* If such identifiers are justified, why an additional NRP id is needed?
* The other way around is also valid: if we have an NRP id, do we need a slice-id to be signaled as well? 

Cheers,
Med

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Teas <teas-bounces@ietf.org> De la part de Dongjie (Jimmy)
> Envoyé : mardi 21 juin 2022 05:45
> À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com>;
> Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net>; TEAS WG <teas@ietf.org>
> Cc : TEAS WG Chairs <teas-chairs@ietf.org>
> Objet : Re: [Teas] WG adoption poll: draft-dong-teas-nrp-
> scalability-02
> 
> Hi Med,
> 
> Please find my replies to your review comments in the following
> link:
> 
> https://github.com/jie-dong/ietf-drafts/blob/main/draft-dong-teas-
> nrp-scalability-02-rev%20Med-reply%20Jie_220620.doc
> 
> And please see some further replies inline:
> 
> > > The concepts network slice, network slice service and NRP are
> > > described in draft-ietf-teas-ietf-network-slices, this
> document
> > > follows these concepts and mainly focus on the scalability of
> NRP.
> >
> > [Med] I see some uses in the draft where this is not well
> aligned. I
> > indicated some of them in the edited copy, but please double
> check the
> > text and update as appropriate.
> 
> Thanks for pointing it out, we will better align the use of the
> terms in next update.
> 
> > > Good question. The WG may need to discuss what types of slice
> > > related identifiers are needed.
> >
> > [Med] However that discussion need to take place before digging
> into
> > optimization matters (this draft, for example).
> 
> My understanding is the WG have had the discussion about what
> information is needed in the underlay network. According to that
> discussion, a network needs to be aware of the underlay constructs
> (i.e. NRPs) to apply different forwarding treatment to packets
> which are mapped to different NRPs.
> 
> > > As for this document, as it focuses on the NRP which is
> allocated
> > > with a set of network resources, the NRP specific identifiers
> are
> > > used to determine the different set of resources allocated in
> the network.
> 
> > [Med] Looking forward seeing that clarified/discussed.
> 
> Please see the replies in the provided link, thanks.
> 
> Best regards,
> Jie
> 
> >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Jie
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Med
> > > >
> >
> >
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