Re: [Teas] Decision point on scope of draft-ietf-teas-ietf-network-slices

Igor Bryskin <i_bryskin@yahoo.com> Mon, 07 March 2022 20:51 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Teas] Decision point on scope of draft-ietf-teas-ietf-network-slices
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Hi Gyan,
I am not a 3gpp person, but if I was  I'd say this:
If enhanced VPN does not go beyond 5G requirements, then it does not matter much one way or the other, otherwise, this is a distraction as far as 5G is concerned. Whatever waited for 20 years can surely wait for another couple of years while enjoying for free the results of this incredible energy generated entirely by 5G.
Cheers,Igor

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