Re: [Teas] Decision point on scope of draft-ietf-teas-ietf-network-slices

Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk> Mon, 07 March 2022 16:25 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Teas] Decision point on scope of draft-ietf-teas-ietf-network-slices
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> My point is focusing on 5G  is the most expedite way to help 3Gpp

> folks and engage them in bidirectional cooperation, just like focusing

> on Ukrain, for example, is the surest way to help Ukrain, despite,

> Georgia, Moldova, Kazakhstan have exact same problems, needs

> and demands.

 

Igor, that is poor taste, untrue, and unworthy of you.

 

Can we please stick to technical discussions on this list.

 

Adrian