Re: [Teas] WG adoption poll - draft-dong-teas-enhanced-vpn-03

"Andrew G. Malis" <agmalis@gmail.com> Wed, 19 December 2018 17:51 UTC

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From: "Andrew G. Malis" <agmalis@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2018 12:51:19 -0500
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To: John E Drake <jdrake@juniper.net>
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Subject: Re: [Teas] WG adoption poll - draft-dong-teas-enhanced-vpn-03
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John,

Did you read the text in section 1 and elsewhere in the draft?
Specifically, the draft says "The general concept of network slicing in a
TE network is a larger  problem space than is addressed by VPN+ or VN, but
those concepts are tools to address some aspects or realizations of network
slicing." My comment was that is an approach for slicing, but I didn't
claim that it's a total solution. As far as scalability goes, see the
discussion in section 5 regarding the scalability benefits of using an
approach based on SR.

Once this becomes a WG draft, you're welcome to propose new text to address
any particular concerns you have with the current text.

Cheers,
Andy


On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 11:46 AM John E Drake <jdrake@juniper.net> wrote:

> Andy,
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> Network slicing is very different from what is described in this draft.
> Network slicing envisions a small number of logical networks built using
> the same physical network, each of which is designed for a specific type of
> overlay network and a given VPN, depending upon its requirements, would be
> assigned to one or more of these network slices.  This draft, in contrast,
> is describing assignment of resources from the physical network to
> individual VPNs.
>
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> This is clearly absurd, and its characterization as a ‘scalable approach’
> seems ill-considered.
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> This draft is also not a framework draft in any of the normally used
> definitions of that word (
> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/framework).  Rather, I would
> characterize it as a set of semi-random musings.
>
>
>
> Yours Irrespectively,
>
>
>
> John
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> *From:* Teas <teas-bounces@ietf.org> *On Behalf Of * Andrew G. Malis
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 18, 2018 9:38 AM
> *To:* EXT-vishnupavan@gmail.com <vishnupavan@gmail.com>
> *Cc:* TEAS WG Chairs <teas-chairs@ietf.org>; teas@ietf.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Teas] WG adoption poll - draft-dong-teas-enhanced-vpn-03
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> Yes/support. This is a scalable approach for network slicing and enhanced
> VPNs that builds on a body of existing work.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Andy
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> On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 2:27 AM Vishnu Pavan Beeram <vishnupavan@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> All,
>
> This is start of a *three* week poll on making
> draft-dong-teas-enhanced-vpn a TEAS working group document.
> Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not
> support". If indicating no, please state your reservations with the
> document. If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd
> like to see addressed once the document is a WG document.
>
> The poll ends Jan 7th 2019 (extra week to account for the holidays).
>
> Thanks,
> Pavan and Lou
>
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