Re: [TLS] [OPSEC] OpSec WGLC for draft-ietf-opsec-ns-impact

Bill Frantz <> Wed, 29 July 2020 14:42 UTC

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On 7/29/20 at 5:20 AM, (Jen Linkova) wrote:

>So issuing the WGLC in the trough between IETF meetings caused an
>undesirable outcome of people not paying enough attention.
>But thanks for the comments, I'll take it into account - let's
>consider it my learning curve..

As a long-time lurker on the TLS list, I don't think these 
comments apply to the TLS working group. I see the ongoing 
business of draft, comment, new draft etc. going on 
continuously, only to be interrupted with email about IETF 
scheduling and agendas.

I would suggest that anything requiring input from the TLS 
working group be presented between IETF meetings, when there are 
many TLS experts who will take the time to review and comment.

Cheers - Bill

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