Re: [TLS] PR#28: Converting cTLS to QUIC-style varints
Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com> Tue, 06 October 2020 05:11 UTC
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Subject: Re: [TLS] PR#28: Converting cTLS to QUIC-style varints
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On Mon, Oct 5, 2020 at 9:59 PM Christian Huitema <huitema@huitema.net> wrote: > 1994 called. It wanted to talk about distinguished encoding rules. > Could you expand on this idea? I am not sure what you mean, because most things from circa 1994 are pretty naive, to my eye. thanks, Rob > On 10/5/2020 8:08 PM, Eric Rescorla wrote: > > I don't have a strong opinion on whether to require a minimal encoding, > but if we're not going to use QUIC's encoding as-is, then I would rather > stick with the existing scheme, which has twice as large a range for the 1 > byte encoding and is thus more compact for a range of common cases. > > -Ekr > > > On Mon, Oct 5, 2020 at 7:31 PM Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> In that case, why use QUIC's encoding at all? It would just put the >> burden on the receiver to check that the minimal encoding was used. >> Would it instead make more sense to modify QUIC's encoding, such that the >> 2-byte encoding doesn't encode the numbers from 0 to 16383, but the numbers >> from 64 to (16383 + 64), and equivalently for 4 and 8-byte encodings? >> >> On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 9:22 AM Salz, Rich <rsalz@akamai.com> wrote: >> >>> Can you just say “QUIC rules but use the minimum possible length”? >>> >> > _______________________________________________ > TLS mailing listTLS@ietf.orghttps://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls > > _______________________________________________ > TLS mailing list > TLS@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls >
- [TLS] PR#28: Converting cTLS to QUIC-style varints Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] PR#28: Converting cTLS to QUIC-style va… Marten Seemann
- Re: [TLS] PR#28: Converting cTLS to QUIC-style va… Martin Thomson
- Re: [TLS] PR#28: Converting cTLS to QUIC-style va… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] PR#28: Converting cTLS to QUIC-style va… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] PR#28: Converting cTLS to QUIC-style va… Salz, Rich
- Re: [TLS] PR#28: Converting cTLS to QUIC-style va… Marten Seemann
- Re: [TLS] PR#28: Converting cTLS to QUIC-style va… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] PR#28: Converting cTLS to QUIC-style va… Christian Huitema
- Re: [TLS] PR#28: Converting cTLS to QUIC-style va… Rob Sayre
- Re: [TLS] PR#28: Converting cTLS to QUIC-style va… Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [TLS] PR#28: Converting cTLS to QUIC-style va… Martin Thomson
- Re: [TLS] PR#28: Converting cTLS to QUIC-style va… Salz, Rich
- Re: [TLS] PR#28: Converting cTLS to QUIC-style va… Michael D'Errico
- Re: [TLS] PR#28: Converting cTLS to QUIC-style va… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- Re: [TLS] PR#28: Converting cTLS to QUIC-style va… Michael D'Errico
- Re: [TLS] PR#28: Converting cTLS to QUIC-style va… Salz, Rich
- Re: [TLS] PR#28: Converting cTLS to QUIC-style va… Michael D'Errico
- Re: [TLS] PR#28: Converting cTLS to QUIC-style va… Salz, Rich
- Re: [TLS] PR#28: Converting cTLS to QUIC-style va… Michael D'Errico
- Re: [TLS] PR#28: Converting cTLS to QUIC-style va… Christian Huitema
- Re: [TLS] PR#28: Converting cTLS to QUIC-style va… Michael D'Errico
- Re: [TLS] PR#28: Converting cTLS to QUIC-style va… Nick Harper
- Re: [TLS] PR#28: Converting cTLS to QUIC-style va… Martin Thomson
- Re: [TLS] PR#28: Converting cTLS to QUIC-style va… Nick Harper
- Re: [TLS] PR#28: Converting cTLS to QUIC-style va… Christian Huitema
- Re: [TLS] PR#28: Converting cTLS to QUIC-style va… Peter Gutmann
- Re: [TLS] PR#28: Converting cTLS to QUIC-style va… Watson Ladd
- Re: [TLS] PR#28: Converting cTLS to QUIC-style va… Michael D'Errico
- Re: [TLS] PR#28: Converting cTLS to QUIC-style va… Mohit Sethi M
- Re: [TLS] PR#28: Converting cTLS to QUIC-style va… Anders Rundgren
- Re: [TLS] PR#28: Converting cTLS to QUIC-style va… Mohit Sethi M
- Re: [TLS] PR#28: Converting cTLS to QUIC-style va… Michael D'Errico
- Re: [TLS] PR#28: Converting cTLS to QUIC-style va… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] PR#28: Converting cTLS to QUIC-style va… Salz, Rich
- Re: [TLS] PR#28: Converting cTLS to QUIC-style va… Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [TLS] PR#28: Converting cTLS to QUIC-style va… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] PR#28: Converting cTLS to QUIC-style va… Mohit Sethi M