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Re: [TLS] Additional TLS 1.3 results from Chrome

"Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com> Tue, 19 December 2017 13:57 UTC

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From: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>
To: Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>, Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>, David Benjamin <davidben@chromium.org>
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Thread-Topic: [TLS] Additional TLS 1.3 results from Chrome
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Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2017 13:56:50 +0000
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Subject: Re: [TLS] Additional TLS 1.3 results from Chrome
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“dropped as a bad idea” is an interesting end-state.  Also “on hold for now” (which is how I want to see the TLS-breaking proposals).

Having more I-D workflow options seems like something the IESG should take up.

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