Re: [TLS] Comments/Questions on draft-gutmann-tls-encrypt-then-mac-00.txt
mrex@sap.com (Martin Rex) Wed, 25 September 2013 21:32 UTC
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Subject: Re: [TLS] Comments/Questions on draft-gutmann-tls-encrypt-then-mac-00.txt
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Michael D'Errico wrote: > > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-bmoeller-tls-downgrade-scsv-00.txt > > I think that the server MUST send a FATAL alert only if it would > not have been willing to negotiate the lower TLS version in the > absence of the SCSV. > > A WARNING alert from the server (or some extension_data with more > information) lets the client decide whether to continue. Both > sides can keep track of these occurrences for further investigation > by interested admins at their leisure (not via calls to the help > desk). > > Also RFC 3546 and 4366 have been obsoleted by RFC 6066. "Warning level alerts"? Please don't! As rfc6066 summarizes, the last experiment of using warning level alerts failed badly -> "unpredictable client behaviour" and it is NOT RECOMMENDED. Speaking of rfc 3546/4366/6066 "TLS Extensions": https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6066#section-3 If the server understood the ClientHello extension but does not recognize the server name, the server SHOULD take one of two actions: either abort the handshake by sending a fatal-level unrecognized_name(112) alert or continue the handshake. It is NOT RECOMMENDED to send a warning-level unrecognized_name(112) alert, because the client's behavior in response to warning-level alerts is unpredictable. -Martin
- Re: [TLS] Comments/Questions on draft-gutmann-tls… Peter Gutmann
- [TLS] Comments/Questions on draft-gutmann-tls-enc… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] Comments/Questions on draft-gutmann-tls… Christian Kahlo
- Re: [TLS] Comments/Questions on draft-gutmann-tls… Dr Stephen Henson
- Re: [TLS] Comments/Questions on draft-gutmann-tls… Bill Frantz
- Re: [TLS] Comments/Questions on draft-gutmann-tls… Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos
- Re: [TLS] Comments/Questions on draft-gutmann-tls… Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos
- Re: [TLS] Comments/Questions on draft-gutmann-tls… Christian Kahlo
- Re: [TLS] Comments/Questions on draft-gutmann-tls… Peter Gutmann
- Re: [TLS] Comments/Questions on draft-gutmann-tls… Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos
- Re: [TLS] Comments/Questions on draft-gutmann-tls… Peter Gutmann
- Re: [TLS] Comments/Questions on draft-gutmann-tls… Christian Kahlo
- Re: [TLS] Comments/Questions on draft-gutmann-tls… Blumenthal, Uri - 0558 - MITLL
- Re: [TLS] Comments/Questions on draft-gutmann-tls… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] Comments/Questions on draft-gutmann-tls… Peter Gutmann
- Re: [TLS] Comments/Questions on draft-gutmann-tls… Alfredo Pironti
- Re: [TLS] Comments/Questions on draft-gutmann-tls… Bodo Moeller
- Re: [TLS] Comments/Questions on draft-gutmann-tls… Ralph Holz
- Re: [TLS] Comments/Questions on draft-gutmann-tls… Peter Gutmann
- Re: [TLS] Comments/Questions on draft-gutmann-tls… Adam Langley
- Re: [TLS] Comments/Questions on draft-gutmann-tls… Bodo Moeller
- Re: [TLS] Comments/Questions on draft-gutmann-tls… Michael D'Errico
- Re: [TLS] Comments/Questions on draft-gutmann-tls… Yaron Sheffer
- Re: [TLS] Comments/Questions on draft-gutmann-tls… Michael D'Errico
- Re: [TLS] Comments/Questions on draft-gutmann-tls… Bodo Moeller
- Re: [TLS] Comments/Questions on draft-gutmann-tls… Bodo Moeller
- Re: [TLS] Comments/Questions on draft-gutmann-tls… Yaron Sheffer
- Re: [TLS] Comments/Questions on draft-gutmann-tls… Bodo Moeller
- Re: [TLS] Comments/Questions on draft-gutmann-tls… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Comments/Questions on draft-gutmann-tls… Mohamad Badra
- Re: [TLS] Comments/Questions on draft-gutmann-tls… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Comments/Questions on draft-gutmann-tls… Michael D'Errico
- Re: [TLS] Comments/Questions on draft-gutmann-tls… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Comments/Questions on draft-gutmann-tls… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Comments/Questions on draft-gutmann-tls… Peter Gutmann
- Re: [TLS] Comments/Questions on draft-gutmann-tls… Paul Bakker
- Re: [TLS] Comments/Questions on draft-gutmann-tls… Paul Bakker
- Re: [TLS] Comments/Questions on draft-gutmann-tls… Alfredo Pironti
- Re: [TLS] Comments/Questions on draft-gutmann-tls… Paul Bakker
- Re: [TLS] Comments/Questions on draft-gutmann-tls… Bodo Moeller
- Re: [TLS] Comments/Questions on draft-gutmann-tls… Bodo Moeller
- Re: [TLS] Comments/Questions on draft-gutmann-tls… Yoav Nir