Re: [TLS] Working Group Last Call for SSLKEYLOG File

Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> Tue, 12 March 2024 23:03 UTC

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Subject: Re: [TLS] Working Group Last Call for SSLKEYLOG File
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I'll argue just a little more then shut up...

On 12/03/2024 22:55, Martin Thomson wrote:
> 
>> Sorry also for a late suggestion, but how'd we feel about adding 
>> some text like this to 1.1?
>> 
>> "An implementation, esp. a server, emitting a log file such as this
>> in a production environment where the TLS clients are unaware that
>> logging is happening, could fall afoul of regulatory requirements
>> to protect client data using state-of-the-art mechanisms."

> I agree with Ekr.  That risk is not appreciably changed by the
> existence of a definition for a file format.
I totally do consider our documenting this format increases
the risk that production systems have such logging enabled,
despite our saying "MUST NOT." So if there's a way to further
disincentivise doing that, by even obliquely referring to
potential negative consequences of doing so, then I'd be for
doing that. Hence my suggestion.

S.