Re: [TLS] Re: when is it ok to resume a cached SSL/TLS session
Eric Rescorla <ekr@networkresonance.com> Mon, 15 January 2007 16:17 UTC
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Subject: Re: [TLS] Re: when is it ok to resume a cached SSL/TLS session
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From: Eric Rescorla <ekr@networkresonance.com>
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 08:17:35 -0800
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<home_pw@msn.com> writes: >>> The server doesn't recognize that session and replies with >>> a Server Hello containing his highest protocol version, plus >>> plus server certificate message plus client cert request plus >>> server hello done. The popular Web Browser closes the network >>> connection without sending any kind of SSL alert and shows >>> "Page cannot be displayed" to the user. >>> >>> >>> I firmly believe that this is a conceptual flaw on the client >>> side, making a flawed assumption about when a cached SSL session >>> can be expected to be resumable. >> >> ISTM that there are two issues here: >> >> 1. Whether the client should have offered asession ID. >> 2. Whether it should have choked when the server refused. >> >> Without taking a position on the first, which I think is tricky, >> the client should definitely not have choked. Servers can always >> refuse to accept a resumption. >> >> -Ekr > > I reasoned differently, because this is an https context - > there is thus a URL resolver involved. The validity of a secure URL is > not the same as the validity of an SSL-named layer 4 TCP port (or > SSL-named PPP tunnel connection,....) > > At the SSL layer, the client sought a session resumption from a named > layer 4 port. Session resumption means that the URL resolver at the > https layer, however, is based on the client's connection state , not > the host/port parsing. This includes the binding of URLs used in > session creation, and the URL used in connection establishment (which > are allowed to differ) > > IN the cited case, a server responding from a given layer 4 port of > the second URL refused to resume a session (for some reason, like it > didn't share session state records with another implementation). It > then correctly engaged in a full handshake (with unusual custom > pipelining of full handshake messages). > > The client is entitled to reject the handshake, as in any full/partial > rehandshake case. The client uses the conforming option to close the > TLS Transport (TCP) rather than perform a close. This is reasonable, > given the URL resource showed no knowledge of the sessionid/keying > material. Peter, TLS session IDs do not come with any guarantee that the server will actually honor a resumption request. The server may implement any session cache policy it chooses. Therefore the client *must* be prepared for the server to refuse resumption. -Ekr _______________________________________________ TLS mailing list TLS@lists.ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls
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