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Re: [TLS] TLS 1.2 Long-term Support Profile draft posted

Peter Gutmann <pgut001@cs.auckland.ac.nz> Fri, 18 March 2016 09:06 UTC

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From: Peter Gutmann <pgut001@cs.auckland.ac.nz>
To: Dave Garrett <davemgarrett@gmail.com>, "tls@ietf.org" <tls@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [TLS] TLS 1.2 Long-term Support Profile draft posted
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Dave Garrett <davemgarrett@gmail.com> writes:

I've already replied to the other parts in an earlier reply, leaving:

>The big glaring problem, however, in multiple places, are the statements that
>something is "implicit in TLS-LTS, there is no need to signal it" via its
>designated extension. No! These features MUST be implemented in full,
>according to their specifications, such that they will work fully with
>servers that support them but not this new LTS proposal. Skimping on this
>just makes this messy situation even messier, which is the opposite of what
>you're trying to do here.

Good point, I've changed the text to say that for TLS-LTS purposes you don't
need it, but you do if you need to interop with non-LTS servers/clients.

Peter.

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