Re: [TLS] Extended random is NSA backdoor
"Dan Harkins" <dharkins@lounge.org> Mon, 31 March 2014 17:02 UTC
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Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 10:02:15 -0700
From: Dan Harkins <dharkins@lounge.org>
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Subject: Re: [TLS] Extended random is NSA backdoor
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Strike that; I found it. Dan. On Mon, March 31, 2014 9:55 am, Dan Harkins wrote: > > Hi Trevor, > > On Mon, March 31, 2014 9:06 am, Trevor Perrin wrote: >> Hi Rene, >> >> The revelation that NSA used this Working Group in an attempt to >> promote TLS extensions which amplify the backdoor is new: >> >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-rescorla-tls-opaque-prf-input/ >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-rescorla-tls-extended-random/ > > By "backdoor" do you mean Dual_EC:DRBG? If so, what do you mean by > "amplify the backdoor"? > > Dan. > >> >> Trevor >> >> >> On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 8:33 AM, Rene Struik <rstruik.ext@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> Dear colleagues: >>> >>> Not sure what is new here. The paper (with an impressive list of nine >>> (!) >>> co-authors) seems to be simply a validation of results already >>> described >>> in >>> the Crypto 2007 rump session paper by Ferguson et al and in the >>> teachings of >>> a 2005 US patent application. >>> >>> Best regards, Rene >>> >>> >>> >>> On 3/31/2014 10:45 AM, Paul Ferguson wrote: >>>> >>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>> Hash: SHA256 >>>> >>>> On 3/31/2014 7:40 AM, Tom Ritter wrote: >>>> >>>>> Looks like this has the technical details: http://dualec.org/ >>>>> >>>> Gracias. >>>> >>>> - - ferg >>>> >>>>> -tom >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> - -- Paul Ferguson >>>> VP Threat Intelligence, IID >>>> PGP Public Key ID: 0x54DC85B2 >>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >>>> Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (MingW32) >>>> Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ >>>> >>>> iF4EAREIAAYFAlM5f3wACgkQKJasdVTchbKYNgEAiwR5zR2qfSRfdEkXQx7CihyY >>>> QD3xZG9bkx8+40Gc+BYA/Avz/59WC1sv8KodlV4Z81rJqMF8uKrrxn2A6SR80lgC >>>> =NxYj >>>> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> TLS mailing list >>>> TLS@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> email: rstruik.ext@gmail.com | Skype: rstruik >>> cell: +1 (647) 867-5658 | US: +1 (415) 690-7363 >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> TLS mailing list >>> TLS@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TLS mailing list >> TLS@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls >> > > _______________________________________________ > TLS mailing list > TLS@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls >
- [TLS] Extended random is NSA backdoor Watson Ladd
- Re: [TLS] Extended random is NSA backdoor Paul Ferguson
- Re: [TLS] Extended random is NSA backdoor Adam Langley
- Re: [TLS] Extended random is NSA backdoor Stephen Checkoway
- Re: [TLS] Extended random is NSA backdoor Paul Ferguson
- Re: [TLS] Extended random is NSA backdoor Tom Ritter
- Re: [TLS] Extended random is NSA backdoor Paul Ferguson
- Re: [TLS] Extended random is NSA backdoor Rene Struik
- Re: [TLS] Extended random is NSA backdoor Jacob Appelbaum
- Re: [TLS] Extended random is NSA backdoor Trevor Perrin
- Re: [TLS] Extended random is NSA backdoor Stephen Checkoway
- Re: [TLS] Extended random is NSA backdoor Dan Harkins
- Re: [TLS] Extended random is NSA backdoor Dan Harkins
- Re: [TLS] Extended random is NSA backdoor Stephen Farrell
- Re: [TLS] Extended random is NSA backdoor Russ Housley
- Re: [TLS] Extended random is NSA backdoor Marsh Ray
- Re: [TLS] Extended random is NSA backdoor Nico Williams
- Re: [TLS] Extended random is NSA backdoor =JeffH
- Re: [TLS] Extended random is NSA backdoor Nico Williams
- Re: [TLS] Extended random is NSA backdoor Michael D'Errico
- Re: [TLS] Extended random is NSA backdoor Watson Ladd
- Re: [TLS] Extended random is NSA backdoor Nico Williams
- Re: [TLS] Extended random is NSA backdoor Nico Williams
- Re: [TLS] Extended random is NSA backdoor Nico Williams
- Re: [TLS] Extended random is NSA backdoor Bodo Moeller