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Hi Deirdre, > > My take is that if the authors trim the document's attempt at soft > > advocacy for use of non-hybrid ML-KEM, and just specify it clearly > > Is this in reference to the Motivations section? That can definitely be > trimmed but was iterated on multiple times because of complaints that the > motivation were 'not sufficient' etc I do not think there is a conflict. The problem was (and is) not the amount of text, but the broad scope. Thereby writing more -- and more detailed -- text for what we consider an acceptible use case (and what not) may actually result in less "advocacy". -- TBB
- [TLS] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-bar… Richard Barnes
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Eric Rescorla
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Deirdre Connolly
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Eric Rescorla
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Deirdre Connolly
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Eric Rescorla
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification… Eric Rescorla
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification… Richard Barnes
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Nadim Kobeissi
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification… Nadim Kobeissi
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification… Muhammad Usama Sardar
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Bellebaum, Thomas
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Stephen Farrell
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Toerless Eckert
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Eric Rescorla
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Toerless Eckert
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Viktor Dukhovni
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Eric Rescorla
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Viktor Dukhovni
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Deirdre Connolly
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Bellebaum, Thomas
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Deirdre Connolly
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Bellebaum, Thomas
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Toerless Eckert
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Viktor Dukhovni
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Muhammad Usama Sardar
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Rob Sayre
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… John Mattsson
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Watson Ladd
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… John Mattsson
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Muhammad Usama Sardar
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Felix Linker
- [TLS] Re: New Version Notification for draft-barn… Nadim Kobeissi
- [TLS] Re: New Version Notification for draft-barn… John Mattsson
- [TLS] Re: New Version Notification for draft-barn… Richard Barnes
- [TLS] Re: [E] Re: New Version Notification for dr… Choyi, Vinod Kumar
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Paul Wouters
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Rob Sayre
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Ben Schwartz
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Rob Sayre
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Daniel Van Geest
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Stephen Farrell
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Simon Josefsson
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Martin Thomson
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Ilari Liusvaara
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Salz, Rich
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… David Benjamin
- [TLS] Re: New Version Notification for draft-barn… Thom Wiggers
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… DA PIEVE Fabiana
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification… Nadim Kobeissi
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… John Mattsson