[TLS] Re: New Version Notification for draft-barnes-tls-this-could-have-been-an-email-00.txt
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Subject: [TLS] Re: New Version Notification for draft-barnes-tls-this-could-have-been-an-email-00.txt
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Completely agree that this type of policy should be in the charter and not in a draft. I am against any changes in this direction until TLS WG has tried to understand the needs of external SDOs using TLS and made sure that we can improve (and sustain) the applicability and suitability of the TLS family of protocols for use in emerging protocols and use cases. At IETF 125, I would like to discuss sending an LS to SDOs relying on TLS asking them if this kind of major change would work for them and if not explain why. John From: Nadim Kobeissi <nadim@symbolic.software> Date: Tuesday, 24 February 2026 at 11:11 To: Felix Linker <linkerfelix@gmail.com> Cc: <tls@ietf.org> Subject: [TLS] Re: New Version Notification for draft-barnes-tls-this-could-have-been-an-email-00.txt Yes, true! Nadim Kobeissi Symbolic Software • https://symbolic.software On 24 Feb 2026, at 10:25 AM, Felix Linker <linkerfelix@gmail.com> wrote: Hi everyone, Sorry to be pedantic, but shouldn't the charter define what can and cannot be adopted? Adding 1-2 sentences to the charter paragraph starting with "The third goal..." could have the same effect as this document, but be one document less. Best, Felix Am Di., 24. Feb. 2026 um 01:56 Uhr schrieb Richard Barnes <rlb@ipv.sx<mailto:rlb@ipv.sx>>: Hi TLS folks, Those who have worked with me know that I hate doing unnecessary work. It occurred to me that the TLS WG has been doing a lot of unnecessary work on drafts that just register crypto algorithms. This draft proposes that we shouldn't do that. Submitted for your consideration, --Richard ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: <internet-drafts@ietf.org<mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org>> Date: Mon, Feb 23, 2026 at 2:53 PM Subject: New Version Notification for draft-barnes-tls-this-could-have-been-an-email-00.txt To: Richard Barnes <rlb@ipv.sx<mailto:rlb@ipv.sx>> A new version of Internet-Draft draft-barnes-tls-this-could-have-been-an-email-00.txt has been successfully submitted by Richard Barnes and posted to the IETF repository. Name: draft-barnes-tls-this-could-have-been-an-email Revision: 00 Title: Stop Doing Cryptographic Algorithm Drafts when Email to IANA is All You Need Date: 2026-02-24 Group: Individual Submission Pages: 5 URL: https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-barnes-tls-this-could-have-been-an-email-00.txt Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-barnes-tls-this-could-have-been-an-email/ HTML: https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-barnes-tls-this-could-have-been-an-email-00.html HTMLized: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-barnes-tls-this-could-have-been-an-email Abstract: People keep pitching drafts to the TLS Working Group where the only thing the draft does is register a code point for a cryptographic algorithm. Stop doing that. It's unnecessary. Write an email to IANA instead. The IETF Secretariat _______________________________________________ TLS mailing list -- tls@ietf.org<mailto:tls@ietf.org> To unsubscribe send an email to tls-leave@ietf.org<mailto:tls-leave@ietf.org> _______________________________________________ TLS mailing list -- tls@ietf.org To unsubscribe send an email to tls-leave@ietf.org
- [TLS] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-bar… Richard Barnes
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Deirdre Connolly
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Eric Rescorla
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Eric Rescorla
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification… Eric Rescorla
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification… Richard Barnes
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Nadim Kobeissi
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Rob Sayre
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification… Nadim Kobeissi
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Muhammad Usama Sardar
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification… Muhammad Usama Sardar
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Watson Ladd
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… John Mattsson
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Bellebaum, Thomas
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Felix Linker
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Stephen Farrell
- [TLS] Re: New Version Notification for draft-barn… Nadim Kobeissi
- [TLS] Re: New Version Notification for draft-barn… John Mattsson
- [TLS] Re: New Version Notification for draft-barn… Richard Barnes
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Eric Rescorla
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… John Mattsson
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Toerless Eckert
- [TLS] Re: [E] Re: New Version Notification for dr… Choyi, Vinod Kumar
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Viktor Dukhovni
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Eric Rescorla
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Paul Wouters
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Viktor Dukhovni
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Deirdre Connolly
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Deirdre Connolly
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Viktor Dukhovni
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Eric Rescorla
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Deirdre Connolly
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Toerless Eckert
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Bellebaum, Thomas
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Bellebaum, Thomas
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Muhammad Usama Sardar
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… DA PIEVE Fabiana
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification… Nadim Kobeissi
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Toerless Eckert
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Rob Sayre
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Ben Schwartz
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Rob Sayre
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Daniel Van Geest
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Stephen Farrell
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… John Mattsson
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Simon Josefsson
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Martin Thomson
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Ilari Liusvaara
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Salz, Rich
- [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… David Benjamin
- [TLS] Re: New Version Notification for draft-barn… Thom Wiggers