[TLS] Re: New Version Notification for draft-barnes-tls-this-could-have-been-an-email-00.txt

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Completely agree that this type of policy should be in the charter and not in a draft.

I am against any changes in this direction until TLS WG has tried to understand the needs of external SDOs using TLS and made sure that we can improve (and sustain) the applicability and suitability of the TLS family of protocols for use in emerging protocols and use cases.

At IETF 125, I would like to discuss sending an LS to SDOs relying on TLS asking them if this kind of major change would work for them and if not explain why.

John

From: Nadim Kobeissi <nadim@symbolic.software>
Date: Tuesday, 24 February 2026 at 11:11
To: Felix Linker <linkerfelix@gmail.com>
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Subject: [TLS] Re: New Version Notification for draft-barnes-tls-this-could-have-been-an-email-00.txt

Yes, true!

Nadim Kobeissi
Symbolic Software • https://symbolic.software

On 24 Feb 2026, at 10:25 AM, Felix Linker <linkerfelix@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi everyone,

Sorry to be pedantic, but shouldn't the charter define what can and cannot be adopted? Adding 1-2 sentences to the charter paragraph starting with "The third goal..." could have the same effect as this document, but be one document less.

Best,
Felix

Am Di., 24. Feb. 2026 um 01:56 Uhr schrieb Richard Barnes <rlb@ipv.sx<mailto:rlb@ipv.sx>>:
Hi TLS folks,

Those who have worked with me know that I hate doing unnecessary work.  It occurred to me that the TLS WG has been doing a lot of unnecessary work on drafts that just register crypto algorithms.  This draft proposes that we shouldn't do that.

Submitted for your consideration,
--Richard

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Date: Mon, Feb 23, 2026 at 2:53 PM
Subject: New Version Notification for draft-barnes-tls-this-could-have-been-an-email-00.txt
To: Richard Barnes <rlb@ipv.sx<mailto:rlb@ipv.sx>>


A new version of Internet-Draft
draft-barnes-tls-this-could-have-been-an-email-00.txt has been successfully
submitted by Richard Barnes and posted to the
IETF repository.

Name:     draft-barnes-tls-this-could-have-been-an-email
Revision: 00
Title:    Stop Doing Cryptographic Algorithm Drafts when Email to IANA is All You Need
Date:     2026-02-24
Group:    Individual Submission
Pages:    5
URL:      https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-barnes-tls-this-could-have-been-an-email-00.txt
Status:   https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-barnes-tls-this-could-have-been-an-email/
HTML:     https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-barnes-tls-this-could-have-been-an-email-00.html
HTMLized: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-barnes-tls-this-could-have-been-an-email


Abstract:

   People keep pitching drafts to the TLS Working Group where the only
   thing the draft does is register a code point for a cryptographic
   algorithm.  Stop doing that.  It's unnecessary.  Write an email to
   IANA instead.



The IETF Secretariat


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