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Re: [TLS] PR#625: Change alert requirements

Andrei Popov <Andrei.Popov@microsoft.com> Wed, 07 September 2016 18:19 UTC

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From: Andrei Popov <Andrei.Popov@microsoft.com>
To: Hubert Kario <hkario@redhat.com>, Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>
Thread-Topic: [TLS] PR#625: Change alert requirements
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Subject: Re: [TLS] PR#625: Change alert requirements
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> > the only popular stack I found that does not seem to send alerts is 
> > the schannel from Microsoft

To clarify, schannel does generate alerts per RFC, but the HTTP stack (which actually owns the socket) sees no value in sending them.

Cheers,

Andrei

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