Re: [TLS] Please discuss: draft-housley-evidence-extns-00<
Martin Rex <martin.rex@sap.com> Fri, 12 January 2007 14:14 UTC
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Subject: Re: [TLS] Please discuss: draft-housley-evidence-extns-00<
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In-Reply-To: <45A6FC7F.90108@layer8.net> from "Benjamin Black" at Jan 11, 7 07:11:59 pm
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Benjamin Black wrote: > > section 6.2 doesn't nearly address the problem in the abstract, much > less give enough information to determine whether a specific > implementation would or would not be deemed compliant with PCIDSS. as > just one specific example, 6.2 gives no guidance whatsoever on access > control and auditing, both of which would prove especially challenging > (do you monitor access to byte ranges? do you index the streams before > encryption so that semantically meaningful byte ranges are properly > monitored? how do you even enforce access policies when someone can > access one byte range but not another when the whole stream is > encrypted? the complexity seems to be going up rapidly...). This is what I meant with "distributing an egg on every access". If TLS Evidence is used as described in a multi-level security environment, the "wire-tap" data will likely have to carry the highest security label that is permitted to travel the TLS-Endpoint, because of the braindead raw capture approach that is entirely blind to the meta-data of the communication contents. It could re-use the labelling from the peers certificate (policies), but it might still inflate the amount of data with high security labelling. The only positive side-effect might be some extra jobs for IT tech guys with high security clearance that are unlikely to be outsourced/off-shored. :-D -Martin _______________________________________________ TLS mailing list TLS@lists.ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls
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