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Tim Chown <Tim.Chown@jisc.ac.uk> Wed, 10 April 2024 08:50 UTC

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From: Tim Chown <Tim.Chown@jisc.ac.uk>
To: John Levine <johnl@taugh.com>
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Hi,

> On 10 Apr 2024, at 01:42, John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> wrote:
> 
> It appears that Tim Chown  <Tim.Chown@jisc.ac.uk> said:
>> No. The plain text version is immutable by definition, and as far as I know the PDFs for all RFCs before RFC8650 are simply images of the
>> plain text version and also immutable.
> 
> You might want to review the very extensive discussion of this topic in the RSWG list over the past year or so.
> 
> tl;dr The immutability thing is as far as I can tell a de-facto rule
> dating from the early days of the RFC series when there was no way to
> update photocopies of a hand typed RFC, not something that that anyone
> deliberately decided on.
> 
> These days the text version is just one rendering of several. We've
> made a lot of improvements to xml2rfc over the past few years so if
> you rerender the early XML RFCs, there's no reason to expect the text
> layout to be identical to the ones we made when we published them.
> That is not a bug.

Thanks for the responses, John, John, Bob and Brian, very helpful to get the context, and I now understand much better.

Tim

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