Re: [Tools-discuss] Draft email aliases aren't forever

Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net> Wed, 11 May 2022 22:50 UTC

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Date: Thu, 12 May 2022 08:49:53 +1000
From: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
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Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Draft email aliases aren't forever
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On Thu, May 12, 2022, at 02:46, Bob Hinden wrote:
> How hard is it to hand copy the addresses from the authors section for 
> old expired drafts, or do some Internet searches?

In this case >> 4 times harder.  I didn't search, though I should have, but that would increase the multiplier a great deal.  I wasn't looking for a new job, just to notify people of a security vulnerability in their (proposed) protocol as a courtesy.

On Thu, May 12, 2022, at 02:39, Robert Sparks wrote:
> The list of aliases for the mailserver to handle becomes _very_ long and 
> the processing time becomes noticeable.

I guess that is one way to fix the bug.  Is there an index missing on that database table?