Re: [Tools-discuss] Draft email aliases aren't forever
Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com> Wed, 11 May 2022 16:40 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Draft email aliases aren't forever
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On 5/11/22 1:57 AM, Henk Birkholz wrote: > On 11.05.22 08:11, Carsten Bormann wrote: >> One thing that probably should be done is to record the datatracker >> IDs behind the authors’ addresses at the time of submission, and >> replacing the original addresses by current ones recorded under that >> datatracker ID, when the alias is being used. (If there is a >> datatracker ID, that is.) > > That is a great idea. I'm pretty sure that already happens. > > > On 11.05.22 08:11, Carsten Bormann also wrote: >> On 11. May 2022, at 04:40, Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net> wrote: >>> >>> I just tried mailing the authors of an expired draft using the >>> draft-...@ietf.org alias. The mail bounced. >>> >>> What sort of guarantees exist for these email aliases? The name of >>> a draft is forever, so I'd suggest that it makes sense for the >>> aliases to be kept indefinitely also. >> >> We had this discussion a couple of years ago and I was very surprised >> to learn that these aliases time out. >> >>> Or is this an important part of maintaining the fiction that drafts >>> expire? >> >> I don’t remember what the rationale was, but it still doesn’t make >> any sense to me either. The list of aliases for the mailserver to handle becomes _very_ long and the processing time becomes noticeable. >> >> One thing that probably should be done is to record the datatracker >> IDs behind the authors’ addresses at the time of submission, and >> replacing the original addresses by current ones recorded under that >> datatracker ID, when the alias is being used. (If there is a >> datatracker ID, that is.) >> People often publish their drafts proudly exposing the newest startup >> they are in (or whoever is sponsoring their IETF work), and that >> email address may not live very long. >> >> Grüße, Carsten >> >> ___________________________________________________________ >> Tools-discuss mailing list - Tools-discuss@ietf.org >> This list is for discussion, not for action requests or bug reports. >> * Report datatracker and mailarchive bugs to: >> datatracker-project@ietf.org >> * Report tools.ietf.org bugs to: webmaster@tools.ietf.org >> * Report all other bugs or issues to: ietf-action@ietf.org >> List info (including how to Unsubscribe): >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss > > ___________________________________________________________ > Tools-discuss mailing list - Tools-discuss@ietf.org > This list is for discussion, not for action requests or bug reports. > * Report datatracker and mailarchive bugs to: > datatracker-project@ietf.org > * Report tools.ietf.org bugs to: webmaster@tools.ietf.org > * Report all other bugs or issues to: ietf-action@ietf.org > List info (including how to Unsubscribe): > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss
- [Tools-discuss] Draft email aliases aren't forever Martin Thomson
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Draft email aliases aren't fo… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Draft email aliases aren't fo… Henk Birkholz
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Draft email aliases aren't fo… Russ Housley
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Draft email aliases aren't fo… Robert Sparks
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Draft email aliases aren't fo… Bob Hinden
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Draft email aliases aren't fo… Martin Thomson
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Draft email aliases aren't fo… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Draft email aliases aren't fo… Salz, Rich