Re: [Tools-discuss] Draft email aliases aren't forever

Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com> Wed, 11 May 2022 16:40 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Draft email aliases aren't forever
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On 5/11/22 1:57 AM, Henk Birkholz wrote:
> On 11.05.22 08:11, Carsten Bormann wrote:
>> One thing that probably should be done is to record the datatracker 
>> IDs behind the authors’ addresses at the time of submission, and 
>> replacing the original addresses by current ones recorded under that 
>> datatracker ID, when the alias is being used.  (If there is a 
>> datatracker ID, that is.)
>
> That is a great idea.
I'm pretty sure that already happens.
>
>
> On 11.05.22 08:11, Carsten Bormann also wrote:
>> On 11. May 2022, at 04:40, Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> I just tried mailing the authors of an expired draft using the 
>>> draft-...@ietf.org alias.  The mail bounced.
>>>
>>> What sort of guarantees exist for these email aliases?  The name of 
>>> a draft is forever, so I'd suggest that it makes sense for the 
>>> aliases to be kept indefinitely also.
>>
>> We had this discussion a couple of years ago and I was very surprised 
>> to learn that these aliases time out.
>>
>>> Or is this an important part of maintaining the fiction that drafts 
>>> expire?
>>
>> I don’t remember what the rationale was, but it still doesn’t make 
>> any sense to me either.
The list of aliases for the mailserver to handle becomes _very_ long and 
the processing time becomes noticeable.
>>
>> One thing that probably should be done is to record the datatracker 
>> IDs behind the authors’ addresses at the time of submission, and 
>> replacing the original addresses by current ones recorded under that 
>> datatracker ID, when the alias is being used.  (If there is a 
>> datatracker ID, that is.)
>> People often publish their drafts proudly exposing the newest startup 
>> they are in (or whoever is sponsoring their IETF work), and that 
>> email address may not live very long.
>>
>> Grüße, Carsten
>>
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