Re: [Tools-discuss] Draft email aliases aren't forever

[Bob Hinden <[e-mail]>]

On this topic, I am not sure it makes sense to keep these aliases going forever.   Something like a year after the draft expires should be fine.   The likely hood that the email addresses are still valid goes down over time, people change jobs, stop participating in the IETF, retire, etc.

How hard is it to hand copy the addresses from the authors section for old expired drafts, or do some Internet searches?

Bob


> On May 11, 2022, at 9:39 AM, Robert Sparks <[e-mail]> wrote:
> 
> 
> On 5/11/22 1:57 AM, Henk Birkholz wrote:
>> On 11.05.22 08:11, Carsten Bormann wrote:
>>> One thing that probably should be done is to record the datatracker IDs behind the authors’ addresses at the time of submission, and replacing the original addresses by current ones recorded under that datatracker ID, when the alias is being used.  (If there is a datatracker ID, that is.)
>> 
>> That is a great idea.
> I'm pretty sure that already happens.
>> 
>> 
>> On 11.05.22 08:11, Carsten Bormann also wrote:
>>> On 11. May 2022, at 04:40, Martin Thomson <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I just tried mailing the authors of an expired draft using the [e-mail] alias.  The mail bounced.
>>>> 
>>>> What sort of guarantees exist for these email aliases?  The name of a draft is forever, so I'd suggest that it makes sense for the aliases to be kept indefinitely also.
>>> 
>>> We had this discussion a couple of years ago and I was very surprised to learn that these aliases time out.
>>> 
>>>> Or is this an important part of maintaining the fiction that drafts expire?
>>> 
>>> I don’t remember what the rationale was, but it still doesn’t make any sense to me either.
> The list of aliases for the mailserver to handle becomes _very_ long and the processing time becomes noticeable.
>>> 
>>> One thing that probably should be done is to record the datatracker IDs behind the authors’ addresses at the time of submission, and replacing the original addresses by current ones recorded under that datatracker ID, when the alias is being used.  (If there is a datatracker ID, that is.)
>>> People often publish their drafts proudly exposing the newest startup they are in (or whoever is sponsoring their IETF work), and that email address may not live very long.
>>> 
>>> Grüße, Carsten
>>> 
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